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2.85, 166. What are my chances and advice..
I scored a 166 LSAT. I'm applying early September. I have a 2.85 LSAC GPA (Shitty I know). I'm inquiring about my chances at:
Pepperdine
Florida State
Miami
Wake Forest
Tulane
Or where else should I apply?
Pepperdine
Florida State
Miami
Wake Forest
Tulane
Or where else should I apply?
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Re: 2.85, 166. What are my chances and advice..
youll get into those
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100%?. I'm nervous about the 2.85 GPA
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Where are you from? How about UH/SMU?Successedtobreathe wrote: Pepperdine
Florida State
Miami
Wake Forest
Tulane
Or where else should I apply?
No, its not a 100%. You are a borderline candidate at all those places (above one median, substancially below the other). But if you apply that broadly, you are bound to get a few hits. Just make sure you are cool with working near wherever you end up attending.
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I live in North Carolina, but I don't think I have a great chance at Wake Forest or UNC. I could look at South Carolina. Pepperdine or Loyola would be my best chances at a Southern California school.
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Re: 2.85, 166. What are my chances and advice..
I'm also adopted (had a rough childhood), Eagle Scout, had a paper published, I do a lot of community service, member of Alpha Tau Omega. Year off with work experience
If any of that stuff would help.
If any of that stuff would help.
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Depending on where you want to work, I'd throw in:
SMU
Houston
Alabama
UGA
Florida
Even if you're not interested in these, they may help with leveraging more scholarship $$
SMU
Houston
Alabama
UGA
Florida
Even if you're not interested in these, they may help with leveraging more scholarship $$
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Florida has a pretty high GPA requirement right?
I'm hoping the number of people applying to law school decreases
I'm hoping the number of people applying to law school decreases
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Ah, yeah they've been a bit shifty here and there towards splitters.Successedtobreathe wrote:Florida has a pretty high GPA requirement right?
I'm hoping the number of people applying to law school decreases
If you can retake and get a 169 that'll open up:
UIUC, WUSTL, GW, etc.
Better yet, smack the June LSAT with a 172+ and you could get ED UVA , etc
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Yeah, you should retake in June or October. Its going to come down to medians. If you're at or over, you have some sort of chance.
You ought to look at LSN and see what similar splitters got. At Miami, a 2.45/161 & 2.6/161 are in this year. At FSU, a 2.6/165 and 2.75/165 are in this year.
You ought to look at LSN and see what similar splitters got. At Miami, a 2.45/161 & 2.6/161 are in this year. At FSU, a 2.6/165 and 2.75/165 are in this year.
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I'll be in this situation (hopefully) come application season.Nova wrote:Yeah, you should retake in June or October. Its going to come down to medians. If you're at or over, you have some sort of chance.
You ought to look at LSN and see what similar splitters got. At Miami, a 2.45/161 & 2.6/161 are in this year. At FSU, a 2.6/165 and 2.75/165 are in this year.
I have a 2.2 UGPA in engineering (awful I know). I thought splitters had to be over the 75th percentile to accommodate the fact that they are blow the 25th in GPA. Is it only the medians that play into the rankings? I can never find listed medians, only their 25-75 LSAT and GPAs
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I honestly hate the rankings by USA today. I feel like law schools don't accept a lot of students that they would consider to accept (upward trend gpa's, life experiences, splitters) because of the numbers game with usatoday.
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Yeah,for the longest time, thats what I figured too . It turns out only medians affect USNWR rankings. I really wish TLS would add medians to their rankings page. Idk where to find them either, except signing up and paying for USNWR (lol).togepi wrote:I'll be in this situation (hopefully) come application season.Nova wrote:Yeah, you should retake in June or October. Its going to come down to medians. If you're at or over, you have some sort of chance.
You ought to look at LSN and see what similar splitters got. At Miami, a 2.45/161 & 2.6/161 are in this year. At FSU, a 2.6/165 and 2.75/165 are in this year.
I have a 2.2 UGPA in engineering (awful I know). I thought splitters had to be over the 75th percentile to accommodate the fact that they are blow the 25th in GPA. Is it only the medians that play into the rankings? I can never find listed medians, only their 25-75 LSAT and GPAs
Im a splitter too, 3.0/167. Im in at a school where the median is 167. Even as trivial as 1 pt on the LSAT is (extreamly trivial), I doubt I would be going there with a 166.
No matter what, splitter cycles are hit or miss. I did not get into Colorado, Alabama, or SMU, despite being above their 75th.
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Hating it won't get you a job. Retake to 168+ and you could have some very solid options.Successedtobreathe wrote:I honestly hate the rankings by USA today. I feel like law schools don't accept a lot of students that they would consider to accept (upward trend gpa's, life experiences, splitters) because of the numbers game with usatoday.
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USA today =/= USNWSuccessedtobreathe wrote:I honestly hate the rankings by USA today. I feel like law schools don't accept a lot of students that they would consider to accept (upward trend gpa's, life experiences, splitters) because of the numbers game with usatoday.
Since we are talking about how we feel... I feel like the ABA should shut down about 100 law schools.
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2.7/168, just off the WL for Wake Forest today. Not going to attend. Maybe you'd find my cycle predictive of how you'll do:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Wily
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Wily
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I have very similar numbers to Wily, and had a somewhat similar cycle, but with less $$ at some schools, and some acceptances he did not get. Splitter cycles are unpredictable as others have stated, so you should apply to a bunch of schools and see what hits.Wily wrote:2.7/168, just off the WL for Wake Forest today. Not going to attend. Maybe you'd find my cycle predictive of how you'll do:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Wily
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It's worth pointing out that OP is also MA URM. Probably not going to get him into HYS at this point, but a 2.8 + URM status and a 171+ might get him T14...?
EDIT> LSN basically confirms this, since non-URMs are getting 1-3 low T14s with that extreme of a split. 166, your chances don't look that great, job prospects or otherwise. Even a 170 would probably get you in at GULC/UVA, and a 172+ would get you money at Northwestern
EDIT> LSN basically confirms this, since non-URMs are getting 1-3 low T14s with that extreme of a split. 166, your chances don't look that great, job prospects or otherwise. Even a 170 would probably get you in at GULC/UVA, and a 172+ would get you money at Northwestern
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Yeah that certainly makes a big difference. Still, OP needs to be AT LEAST at or above the LSAT median at whatever school to have a decent shot.twentypercentmore wrote:It's worth pointing out that OP is also MA URM. Probably not going to get him into HYS at this point, but a 2.8 + URM status and a 171+ might get him T14...?
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That's ridiculous. I can understand Colorado, but there's tons of people on LSN with 166/2.x who got in with money and you should have had a really good shot at SMU. Did you apply late or was there something else about your application that would have made them more likely to reject you?Nova wrote:Yeah,for the longest time, thats what I figured too . It turns out only medians affect USNWR rankings. I really wish TLS would add medians to their rankings page. Idk where to find them either, except signing up and paying for USNWR (lol).togepi wrote:I'll be in this situation (hopefully) come application season.Nova wrote:Yeah, you should retake in June or October. Its going to come down to medians. If you're at or over, you have some sort of chance.
You ought to look at LSN and see what similar splitters got. At Miami, a 2.45/161 & 2.6/161 are in this year. At FSU, a 2.6/165 and 2.75/165 are in this year.
I have a 2.2 UGPA in engineering (awful I know). I thought splitters had to be over the 75th percentile to accommodate the fact that they are blow the 25th in GPA. Is it only the medians that play into the rankings? I can never find listed medians, only their 25-75 LSAT and GPAs
Im a splitter too, 3.0/167. Im in at a school where the median is 167. Even as trivial as 1 pt on the LSAT is (extreamly trivial), I doubt I would be going there with a 166.
No matter what, splitter cycles are hit or miss. I did not get into Colorado, Alabama, or SMU, despite being above their 75th.
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Re: 2.85, 166. What are my chances and advice..
I think you're shooting a little low. 166 is solid for schools between 25-40, even with a 2.9 GPA.
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I applied in January, about a week after I got my LSAT score. I would consider myself a risky candidate for various reasons...togepi wrote:
That's ridiculous. I can understand Colorado, but there's tons of people on LSN with 166/2.x who got in with money and you should have had a really good shot at SMU. Did you apply late or was there something else about your application that would have made them more likely to reject you?
So yeah, my cycle could have been better, but I ended up surpassing my initial expectations by a mile. http://lawschoolnumbers.com/AFerd/jd
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Should I take my Talents to south beach?! ACCEPTED at U of MIAMI!!
Made me crack up
Made me crack up
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I'm a legacy at Boston University. Both my cousin and uncle are dentist alum from BU.
Will that help my chances of getting in?
Will that help my chances of getting in?
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