4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

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4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby rbkl » Wed May 09, 2012 6:39 am

BG: Asian, Male, Junior at a top 20 undergraduate business program. 2 Majors, 1 Co Major, 2 Minors
Softs: I have leadership, research, an internship at a Big Four Firm for their technology consulting arm this summer, and working on a big volunteering gig (being the national collegiate director) starting the beginning of my senior year.
GPA: 4.00 UGPA / 4.09 LSDAS GPA
LSAT:I am taking the June cycle, and I am averaging high 160s/low 170's, but I will get a month of nothing but LSATing.


Can someone give me some LSAT benchmarks, ie what I would need for HYS, what I would need for CCN, or what I would need for T14?

Also, should I improve my softs / how can I improve them?
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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby jrthor10 » Wed May 09, 2012 8:03 am

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby jkpolk » Wed May 09, 2012 8:11 am

The higher your LSAT the better your chances. Check out the school enrollment medians and aim to beat those.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby rbkl » Wed May 09, 2012 8:37 am

Right, of course...

I was hoping to get some comments about my softs.. whether they are sufficient or not, and possibly how that can factor into the LSAT targets.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby jrthor10 » Wed May 09, 2012 8:51 am

rbkl wrote:Right, of course...

I was hoping to get some comments about my softs.. whether they are sufficient or not, and possibly how that can factor into the LSAT targets.


They don't matter.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby thisguy456 » Wed May 09, 2012 9:00 am

rbkl wrote:Right, of course...

I was hoping to get some comments about my softs.. whether they are sufficient or not, and possibly how that can factor into the LSAT targets.


Your softs are fairly standard. If you want to improve them somewhat then work for a year or two after school. But just focus on the LSAT.

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Postby 005618502 » Wed May 09, 2012 9:01 am

rbkl wrote:Right, of course...

I was hoping to get some comments about my softs.. whether they are sufficient or not, and possibly how that can factor into the LSAT targets.


Very average, but softs dont really matter

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby rbkl » Wed May 09, 2012 9:02 am

thisguy456 wrote:
rbkl wrote:Right, of course...

I was hoping to get some comments about my softs.. whether they are sufficient or not, and possibly how that can factor into the LSAT targets.


Your softs are fairly standard. If you want to improve them somewhat then work for a year or two after school. But just focus on the LSAT.


Improve them enough to make a difference? I am fairly certain that I'll have the option to work full time at the big four firm as a consultant for 1-2 years.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby kwais » Wed May 09, 2012 9:06 am

rbkl wrote:
thisguy456 wrote:
rbkl wrote:Right, of course...

I was hoping to get some comments about my softs.. whether they are sufficient or not, and possibly how that can factor into the LSAT targets.


Your softs are fairly standard. If you want to improve them somewhat then work for a year or two after school. But just focus on the LSAT.


Improve them enough to make a difference? I am fairly certain that I'll have the option to work full time at the big four firm as a consultant for 1-2 years.


average soft for admissions, probably won't make any difference. However, from what I hear, this is a good soft for OCI. With your GPA, the only thing holding you back from choosing where you go to law school is the LSAT. Get all the question correct on it

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby thisguy456 » Wed May 09, 2012 9:10 am

rbkl wrote:
thisguy456 wrote:
rbkl wrote:Right, of course...

I was hoping to get some comments about my softs.. whether they are sufficient or not, and possibly how that can factor into the LSAT targets.


Your softs are fairly standard. If you want to improve them somewhat then work for a year or two after school. But just focus on the LSAT.


Improve them enough to make a difference? I am fairly certain that I'll have the option to work full time at the big four firm as a consultant for 1-2 years.


I don't think it really matters, especially if you kill your LSAT. I don't want to sound like an old man, but there's a lot of other benefit to working for a year or two before law school, especially if you find this big four stuff interesting. It will help with big law hiring, you'll get a chance to save some bucks, and the break between school may keep you a bit more sane.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby davidfett » Wed May 09, 2012 1:19 pm

AZN? GRATS YOU GET IN N E WHERE HAXX0R

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby rbkl » Wed May 09, 2012 10:25 pm

davidfett wrote:AZN? GRATS YOU GET IN N E WHERE HAXX0R


lol wish this were true

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby 2014 » Thu May 10, 2012 1:32 am

165-166 for T14
169-170 for CCNS
172-173 for HY

Just a gut feeling, law school apps are plummeting so it might take less than that and I'm sure you can find random examples of someone who got in somewhere with less than those numbers but your softs don't blow me away or anything.

(Also didn't mean to slight Stanford by the above, they just dip lower into the LSAT pool than HY)

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby lovejopd » Thu May 10, 2012 2:51 am

Another thread that interests me... :|

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Postby rbkl » Thu May 10, 2012 3:11 am

lovejopd wrote:Another thread that interests me... :|


why the frown charlie brown

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Postby soj » Thu May 10, 2012 3:57 am

I've seen 4.0s with high 160s get into HYS (especially S, whose median is 170), but realistically you want at least a 170. 173+ virtually guarantees H. The exceptions (people who don't get into H despite great numbers) tend to be K-JDs, FYI. Getting work experience is a pretty solid idea. At HYS, being a little older helps with need-based aid calculations. Of course, you'll have income you wouldn't have as a K-JD working against your need calculation, but for most entry-level positions, your income won't be high enough to offset the benefits of being in a higher age bracket. Just something to consider if you get a score high enough for HYS and want to plan ahead.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby shoeshine » Thu May 10, 2012 6:09 am

LOL, my favorite part of TLS is when people come on here and make one of these threads thinking that their softs are awesome and unique.

Softs don't matter.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby rbkl » Thu May 10, 2012 6:11 am

shoeshine wrote:LOL, my favorite part of TLS is when people come on here and make one of these threads thinking that their softs are awesome and unique.

Softs don't matter.



Never said they were, asked for suggestions to improve them.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby lovejopd » Thu May 10, 2012 1:36 pm

rbkl wrote:
lovejopd wrote:Another thread that interests me... :|


why the frown charlie brown

Cause I am taking LSAT in June with similar to and a little higher GPA than yours

Damn LSAT!

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby rbkl » Thu May 10, 2012 2:21 pm

lovejopd wrote:
rbkl wrote:
lovejopd wrote:Another thread that interests me... :|


why the frown charlie brown

Cause I am taking LSAT in June with similar to and a little higher GPA than yours

Damn LSAT!



Hehe I technically have a 4.09 now, counted the A+'s as 4.3 instead of 4.33

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby jkpolk » Thu May 10, 2012 2:27 pm

rbkl wrote:
lovejopd wrote:
rbkl wrote:
lovejopd wrote:Another thread that interests me... :|


why the frown charlie brown

Cause I am taking LSAT in June with similar to and a little higher GPA than yours

Damn LSAT!



Hehe I technically have a 4.09 now, counted the A+'s as 4.3 instead of 4.33


oh god, what has grade inflation done

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby rbkl » Fri May 11, 2012 12:26 am

lol, thanks for the responses!

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby basketball law guy » Fri May 11, 2012 11:03 am

shoeshine wrote:LOL, my favorite part of TLS is when people come on here and make one of these threads thinking that their softs are awesome and unique.

Softs don't matter.



I am also finishing my 3rd year UG and will be taking the LSAT in October. I read so many different theories on "softs" and if they matter, don't matter. Let me ask this question- great personal statement vs. great softs? Does the personal statement count for much more?

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby blurbz » Fri May 11, 2012 11:07 am

basketball law guy wrote:
shoeshine wrote:LOL, my favorite part of TLS is when people come on here and make one of these threads thinking that their softs are awesome and unique.

Softs don't matter.



I am also finishing my 3rd year UG and will be taking the LSAT in October. I read so many different theories on "softs" and if they matter, don't matter. Let me ask this question- great personal statement vs. great softs? Does the personal statement count for much more?


Nope.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA -- Help Me Fill in the Gaps

Postby rbkl » Sat May 12, 2012 9:24 am

I wonder if anyone has ever achieved a 4.33 gpa




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