Applying_Late wrote: spleenworship wrote:
Applying_Late wrote:Personally I don't think you have a great shot at YH. For one, I think they will question your motivations. You will have to have very compelling reasons why you'd want to pursue law anf why now? A good story will have to be in line, even moreso at Y. Having an MD is not too shabby but you'll be competing against people of your age who have produced something ie phd, bestseller, etc. for example there is one guy around your age who got into yale and he got his undergrad at harvard, got a phd at berkeley, worked at mckinsey, formed a company with over 300 employees and now is a professor of law.
Not many of the people you described around, even at the T6.
Applying_Late wrote:Your age will be of issue as well. Why would Harvard or yale want to take a chance with someone who might be past their prime? Employers would be scratching their heads too. If you can't be an associate or legal academic, then what are you proposing? Policy work? Working for WHO? If it's just a mid-career crisis or just a knowledge pursuit, then I don't think that's enough.
Older people get into Harvard and Yale. Your example above proves that. And despite what everyone says, biglaw is not the only thing- We have had 3 MDs in the past few years at my law school. One went into med mal and was very successful. Another went into Patent and did well, a last went into civil rights litigation- don't know how they are doing.
Applying_Late wrote:Lastly a lot of lawyers/professors are skeptical of MDs, who tend to be very arrogant. I remember one seminar I took and and MD was trying the class out. Unfortunately his arrogance and narrow-mindedness with respect to science got him clashing heads with the professor...eventually the MD dropped the class.
I agree a lot of MDs are arrogant pricks. But not all of them are. The MD who went into Med Mal was universally regarded as an awesome dude.
Applying_Late wrote:I am not saying don't apply, but i am saying that you have an uphill battle and I would assume you'd have to prove yourself to a greater degree.
Probably have to prove to the same degree as everyone else making a career switch from a well regarded profession to another.
spleenworship wrote: you necro'd the thread.
Also, I disagree with your advice.
ETA: the young people on this forum are annoying- many employers won't have an issue with your age provided you act like what you are: a brand new attorney with no experience.
Applying_Late wrote:And with what do you disagree? If you disagree, please tell me what it is so I can respond in some reasonable way.
Age does matter to good firms. If this guy will be 40+ when finishing law school, I am curious what law firm will take him over a kid who worked in consulting/banking and has great potential. There is already a problem with employers hiring jd/phds because they don't think they're committed. Also what's in it for a firm to hire someone who is 40? Say they take seven years to get to partner over someone younger with better credentials for partner track? Moreover, what the hell would a firm get from a guy who had a proven track record of bouncing around? Who's to say this md jd mba won't embark on a quest to get a PhD?
And for the record I am older as well and have asked around at top law schools and firms what age might do. I don't think Wachtell will be hiring this guy.
I do agree that some, possibly a majority, of biglaw firms aren't going to hire this OP. But that isn't the only good career path for attorneys, despite what the majority on this thread would have you believe.