Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

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Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby kerflux » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:04 pm

I originally took the LSAT in Oct and scored a 165, just retook in Feb and boosted up to 175. My GPA is an underwhelming 3.14. The schools I've applied to w/pending decisions that I'm worried about are: Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Georgetown, USC, Davis. I also applied to UCLA (rejected ED), and UCI, UCH (WL) but I didn't ask for these three to hold my file for my feb score, so they evaluated it without that. I also threw apps to Notre Dame, Pepperdine, Loyola, USD, and SCU, but I'm not sure I plan on attending any of these.

Ultimately, I think I'd like to end up in Cali, where my ties are. I'm not dead set against anything, however. What schools do you think I should be pulling for, and do I have a legitimate shot at? Is the fact that my considered score from February going to hurt? Should I have sent more apps to t-14 schools, or would GPA likely have precluded me from them anyway?

Thanks for taking a minute to read and offer advice.

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby srfngdd6 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:08 pm

you should prob hold off and apply next cycle...better chance of not only admission but $$$$$

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby CanadianWolf » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:33 pm

Reapply next cycle to all Tier One law schools that are of interest to you. Although I haven't checked lawschoolnumbers.com, you should receive significant scholarship money to WashUStL, Vanderbilt, GWU & maybe USC.

P.S. In my opinion, it would not be worthwhile to apply to any Top 6 law school due to your low GPA.

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby 83947368 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:13 pm

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby bdubs » Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:18 pm

srfngdd6 wrote:you should prob hold off and apply next cycle...better chance of not only admission but $$$$$


OP: You won't be getting much if any money from the T14, or UCLA (if you were able to get in next cycle, which is questionable). If you get Northwestern then you should consider attending. If you want to wait out a cycle you might have a shot at Michigan or Penn, but it's not guaranteed.

You really shouldn't be considering the other schools on your list.

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby kerflux » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:57 am

Thanks, all.

Which would be the best t-14 option for returning to CA?
Is Georgetown a possibility?

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby CanadianWolf » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:21 pm

UCLA. Oooops the new rankings aren't out yet. Nevermind.

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby 83947368 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:24 pm

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby kerflux » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:25 pm

Do you guys think USC merits consideration?

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby Tiago Splitter » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:04 pm

kerflux wrote:Do you guys think USC merits consideration?


USC is tough because they don't give out much money and typically give almost nothing to splitters. If you can land Northwestern it'd be tough to turn it down for 30K at USC.

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby kerflux » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:14 pm

For some reason, I haven't been as enamored with NU as some of the other schools I mentioned - looking around and seeing the kind of recognition it's got on these boards as well as doing a little searching of my own has definitely piqued my interest level, though. Maybe it's the distinction that it has of requiring work-experience (which I do have) but I wondered how well I'd fit in as a 22 year-old.
The USC brand is very strong in CA, and I like LA - unsure about Chicago. Oh well, no point in extrapolating too much further when I don't even have a single acceptance yet

do you think SE disadvantage (included in PS & diversity) will offer any boost?

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby Tiago Splitter » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:27 pm

kerflux wrote:For some reason, I haven't been as enamored with NU as some of the other schools I mentioned - looking around and seeing the kind of recognition it's got on these boards as well as doing a little searching of my own has definitely piqued my interest level, though. Maybe it's the distinction that it has of requiring work-experience (which I do have) but I wondered how well I'd fit in as a 22 year-old.
The USC brand is very strong in CA, and I like LA - unsure about Chicago. Oh well, no point in extrapolating too much further when I don't even have a single acceptance yet

do you think SE disadvantage (included in PS & diversity) will offer any boost?


I'm also from Southern California and hope to end up back there, but getting a good job is more important to me. You can go to Northwestern and get a biglaw job in LA much more easily then you can get a biglaw job in Chicago out of SC. Even with a 60K scholarship at USC, which is unlikely with your GPA, you'll need to work in biglaw or find a great LRAP to service the debt. The T-14 does a better job providing those things than USC.

The socioeconomic stuff might help a bit, but numbers will always matter far more.

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby kerflux » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:33 pm

Point taken. Thank you.
It seems like NU / Gtown are probably my 2 most attractive options, if they're possibilities. This waiting gets old

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby ColtsFan88 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:31 pm

I'm a 3.17/177 split, and I applied right when the October scores came out. I have an LSN profile under the name Bobeo if you want to take a look at my cycle.

Accepted: GWU, GTown, WUSTL$$, IUB$
WL: UCLA, UMich, ND
Rejected: UChi

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby kerflux » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:48 pm

I'll look, thank you. Your numbers are more attractive; think those 2 points will make much of a difference?

And what option do you think you'll go with?

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby t14fanboy » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:03 pm

OP I would apply to MVP on down along with UCLA and USC. Despite UCLA and USC favoring the GPA, there are several data points to suggest that your LSAT is high enough to snag an acceptance from them. Have you considered EDing to one of MVP? For example, Virginia is likely (pretty high likelihood) to be a waitlist and eventual reject, but a lock with ED.

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby kerflux » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:33 pm

I'm planning on attending this cycle, & didn't apply to those schools... unless I become thoroughly convinced that doing otherwise would have a huge benefit, I'm probably going w/one of the schools that bites. Working a job that I despise and I already took a year off from UG. Not really able to save up so the take a year off to save for school doesn't really apply, either.
You think MVP offers much better prospects than Gtown/NU?

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby Samara » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:38 pm

kerflux wrote:I'm planning on attending this cycle, & didn't apply to those schools... unless I become thoroughly convinced that doing otherwise would have a huge benefit, I'm probably going w/one of the schools that bites. Working a job that I despise and I already took a year off from UG. Not really able to save up so the take a year off to save for school doesn't really apply, either.
You think MVP offers much better prospects than Gtown/NU?

MVP is peer with NU, at least for biglaw, but are arguably better than GULC. If you don't get into NU or GULC, both of which will allow you to get back to CA, I would reapply next cycle with a better application strategy. You won't get Duke, Cornell is unlikely, USC is pretty iffy, and the others won't give you enough money to make it worth it.

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby kerflux » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:58 pm

Sound advice; thank you.

I wish I had planned better for this cycle, but I received my score past most app deadlines. I figured USC would be difficult because of GPA, but I like the idea of attending school in CA

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby 09042014 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:03 pm

srfngdd6 wrote:you should prob hold off and apply next cycle...better chance of not only admission but $$$$$


I would at least see how this cycle goes. If he gets NW, Cornell or Duke, they will never give him money.

As a splitter I'd take whatever t14 you get. You aren't likely to get anything but NW and GTown. Small shots at the rest of the lower t14, but not enough to recycle, unless you don't get any t14 this time.

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby Samara » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:04 pm

kerflux wrote:Sound advice; thank you.

I wish I had planned better for this cycle, but I received my score past most app deadlines. I figured USC would be difficult because of GPA, but I like the idea of attending school in CA

Yeah, I hear you man. It sucks that all the splitter-friendly schools are in the Midwest. If you ride the waitlist though and do everything you can to get off of it, I bet you'll get NU this cycle. Check out the NU applicants thread for info on the waitlist and get connected to Dean Lee on G+: gplus.to/plusbyjohann

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby kerflux » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:05 pm

Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate your responses. I take it an ED to UVA isn't worth waiting an entire cycle if I get NU, in terms of CA portability?

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby Samara » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:22 pm

kerflux wrote:Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate your responses. I take it an ED to UVA isn't worth waiting an entire cycle if I get NU, in terms of CA portability?

Nope. UVa might be a little cheaper, due to COL, but doesn't place better.

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby kerflux » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:48 pm

Well, got my first decision - held @ NU. How hard do you think it is to get pulled off of this?

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Re: Not sure what to do, 3.14/175

Postby Samara » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:23 pm

kerflux wrote:Well, got my first decision - held @ NU. How hard do you think it is to get pulled off of this?

It seems like there are quite a few holds this cycle. That said, you'll have a definite leg up if you do the legwork. Do the optional essays, the hold interview if you can, follow Johann on G+, etc. Check the NU cycle thread for more details or PM me with any questions.




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