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3.84/ 166

Postby Snake90 » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:47 am

Hi everyone- so I've applied to a bunch of schools but wanted thoughts on Georgetown, george Washington, NYU, Fordham, and Cardozo. 3.84 and 166. I have a good ps, resume, and recs. Any chance at all for the elite schools? Any chance for money at Cardozo? Thanks!

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby law4vus » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:29 pm

You probably have at least a small shot at Gtown, a good shot at GW and Fordham, and probably out at NYU. I got 23K a year from Cardozo with a 3.3, 167 so I think you're good for a full ride there.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby BiglawOrBust » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:12 pm

Snake90 wrote:Hi everyone- so I've applied to a bunch of schools but wanted thoughts on Georgetown, george Washington, NYU, Fordham, and Cardozo. 3.84 and 166. I have a good ps, resume, and recs. Any chance at all for the elite schools? Any chance for money at Cardozo? Thanks!


Interesting choices. Why not Cornell if you're looking for NYC? Why not ED UVA? You have a shot at both (well, maybe not UVA -- I can't recall their GPA median), and those are exponentially better than your most realistic options of GW, Fordham, and Cardozo.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby Bos7 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:24 pm

Number twin. Last cycle i got into ND, WUSTL, BU, BC, Cornell, Minnesota, wait-listed at Vandy, Michigan and UCLA and rejected from G'Town and Northwestern. I think if you play your apps right, you have a decent shot at Cornell, G'Town and possibly Duke and UVA.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby Snake90 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:00 pm

Thanks for the responses guys-

So I actually applied to a bunch of places but just asked for those places because they represent a fair overview rankings wise of where I applied too and I didn't want to be too overwhelming.

I also applied to Columbia (ED), Penn, Michigan, Berkley, UCLA, USC, BC, BU, and Emory. I know its not particularly likely, but there are always a couple of people with my stats who get in! (right?)

Good news today though: In at GW! 1 for 1 haha

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby BiglawOrBust » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:08 pm

I think you're both aiming too high and too low. Many of the T14s you mentioned are out of the picture, and I hope you aren't seriously considering GW and Cardozo. Your numbers are too good for those shitholes.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby law4vus » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:09 pm

BiglawOrBust wrote:I hope you aren't seriously considering GW and Cardozo. Your numbers are
too good for those shitholes.


Yes.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby Snake90 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:11 pm

Well if I want to work in NYC, I think Cardozo is a fair option if I get a scholarship to attend. GW is also # 20, hardly a shit hole.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby BiglawOrBust » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:16 pm

Snake90 wrote:Well if I want to work in NYC, I think Cardozo is a fair option if I get a scholarship to attend. GW is also # 20, hardly a shit hole.


In an overcrowded market where you'll have a tough going at finding work.

And....

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby Snake90 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:25 pm

Thanks for that. Very informative.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby BiglawOrBust » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:27 pm

Snake90 wrote:Thanks for that. Very informative.


No prob, Bob. (Assuming that wasn't sarcasm!)

Just tryna help. You're in for a nice cycle with those numbers. Good luck.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby HolyMoley » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:24 pm

I'm at a loss. Is there a major difference between a 3.84 and 3.81? I have the same LSAT and was waitlisted at GW. Now i'm worried for other schools: Fordham, BC, BU, etc.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby law4vus » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:58 pm

HolyMoley wrote:I'm at a loss. Is there a major difference between a 3.84 and 3.81? I have the same LSAT and was waitlisted at GW. Now i'm worried for other schools: Fordham, BC, BU, etc.


Stupidly enough, there is a difference. GW's medians are 167 and 3.82. Therefore, OP is above one median while you are below both medians. Being below both medians is generally a ticket for a drop in chances for admission. Just further shows how much law schools are numbers whores.

That being said, if you push hard off the waitlist, you're going to get in pretty easily because of the GPA. You also still have a good shot at BC, BU and Fordham because IIRC they all have GPA medians below your GPA.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby aladdinismyprince » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:15 pm

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby tennisking88 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:20 pm

law4vus wrote:
HolyMoley wrote:I'm at a loss. Is there a major difference between a 3.84 and 3.81? I have the same LSAT and was waitlisted at GW. Now i'm worried for other schools: Fordham, BC, BU, etc.


Stupidly enough, there is a difference. GW's medians are 167 and 3.82. Therefore, OP is above one median while you are below both medians. Being below both medians is generally a ticket for a drop in chances for admission. Just further shows how much law schools are numbers whores.


I agree schools are numbers whores but not that being .01 below the median hurt the application. Like, even if their gpa drops by .01, the USNWR calculation is completely negligible from 3.82.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby Snake90 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:39 am

Thanks Aladdin!

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby dolphin » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:45 pm

For someone with your numbers, Cardozo and similarly ranked schools would be a poor life choice. Yes, it is good to balance cost and rank. No, it is not good to go to a school where you need to be top 10% in order to have decent job prospects. You can do better.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby Snake90 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:46 am

Hi everyone-

Thanks for all the help. So I have a big decision to make. While I haven't heard back from everywhere, I have gotten accepted to both UCLA and GTown and think the higher ranked schools I applied to (NYU, Penn, Michigan, and Berkeley) are probably a stretch. So I think my decision will come to UCLA and GTown.

Gtown is t-14, but UCLA is right there. I'm from L.A. so its very realistic for me to want to work there, but I'm very open on working in other job markets as well. Any advice on the decision to make? Do people really think its T-14 or nothing if the other choice is UCLA?

Many thanks.

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Re: 3.84/ 166

Postby Dash41 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:19 pm

Snake90 wrote:Hi everyone-

Thanks for all the help. So I have a big decision to make. While I haven't heard back from everywhere, I have gotten accepted to both UCLA and GTown and think the higher ranked schools I applied to (NYU, Penn, Michigan, and Berkeley) are probably a stretch. So I think my decision will come to UCLA and GTown.

Gtown is t-14, but UCLA is right there. I'm from L.A. so its very realistic for me to want to work there, but I'm very open on working in other job markets as well. Any advice on the decision to make? Do people really think its T-14 or nothing if the other choice is UCLA?

Many thanks.


I would go to UCLA if you want to work in LA. Georgetown and UCLA are very close in rank, so the regional differences play a big factor.




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