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3.6 / 167 Chances at Cornell, or UCLA?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:07 am
by justnicholas
I was thinking about EDing to UCLA but I was wondering with my numbers do I have a shot at Cornell?

I would have EAed Cornell, but I took the October LSAT and unless I write up an essay by tomorrow I missed that deadline.

So I was wondering what my shot at UCLA is with a 3.6 (from a public ivy) and a 167 and what my shot at Cornell is without EA? Should I ED to UCLA and lose the opportunity of Cornell?

I know these are going to be hard but they are my reach/goals.

Re: 3.6 / 167 Chances at Cornell, or UCLA?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:29 am
by bk1
You don't have a shot at Cornell. Your LSAT and/or GPA are a tad too low. EA'ing is pointless at Cornell since they have such a shitty admissions office (EA isn't binding and often EA people get decisions after regular application people).

You should not ED at UCLA since sticker at UCLA is a bad idea. What you should do is take the LSAT again until you hit 170+ even if it means having to reapply next cycle.

Re: 3.6 / 167 Chances at Cornell, or UCLA?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:32 am
by justnicholas
Don't think I could do any better on the LSAT. I know its low for this website, but a retake is out of the question.

UCLA or USC is a viable option for me or else I would go lower with scholarships.

I like the prospects of big law, but I realize it is incredibly unlikely that I get it and I don't expect it. I just want to go to a school where I have the best job prospects and although USC and UCLA are pretty expensive they seem to have the best job prospects in their region obviously.

Re: 3.6 / 167 Chances at Cornell, or UCLA?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:40 am
by bk1
You have basically no shot at UCLA right now and a very slim one at USC.

You really don't think you could score 1 or maybe 2 points better? 1 point higher would make UCLA a possibility. 2 points would make it a lot easier at both USC and UCLA while opening up Cornell as an outside shot. You really have nothing to lose by retaking since a lower score isn't going to hurt you whereas a 1-2 points would mean a lot and 3 would be a complete game changer.

You're saying that you have either personal finance or someone helping that would allow you to justify the burden of $200k+ that USC/UCLA would cost at sticker.

Re: 3.6 / 167 Chances at Cornell, or UCLA?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:55 am
by Grizz
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Re: 3.6 / 167 Chances at Cornell, or UCLA?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:07 am
by American_in_China
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Re: 3.6 / 167 Chances at Cornell, or UCLA?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:05 pm
by Typo
You have a shot at Cornell. I know people who got into Cornell with similar stats.

Re: 3.6 / 167 Chances at Cornell, or UCLA?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:10 pm
by de5igual
bk1 wrote:You have basically no shot at UCLA right now and a very slim one at USC.

You really don't think you could score 1 or maybe 2 points better? 1 point higher would make UCLA a possibility. 2 points would make it a lot easier at both USC and UCLA while opening up Cornell as an outside shot. You really have nothing to lose by retaking since a lower score isn't going to hurt you whereas a 1-2 points would mean a lot and 3 would be a complete game changer.

You're saying that you have either personal finance or someone helping that would allow you to justify the burden of $200k+ that USC/UCLA would cost at sticker.


not to derail your post, but you realize ucla is harder to get into than cornell despite the rankings, right?

Re: 3.6 / 167 Chances at Cornell, or UCLA?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:25 pm
by Grizz
Typo wrote:You have a shot at Cornell. I know people who got into Cornell with similar stats.

Two cycles ago 168/3.75 woulda got you in. Similar =\= chance.

Re: 3.6 / 167 Chances at Cornell, or UCLA?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:30 pm
by bk1
f0bolous wrote:not to derail your post, but you realize ucla is harder to get into than cornell despite the rankings, right?


Hmm, you're right. I knew Cornell was easy for it's ranking but I had forgotten how easy. Checking LSN, 168 would make it possible for OP and 170+ would make it a good shot.

Re: 3.6 / 167 Chances at Cornell, or UCLA?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:13 pm
by lakers3peat
i had a friend get into ucla with 165, 3.8 @ usc and @ ucla(waitlist)...

not trying to argue, just want to let OP know that its not COMPLETELY improbable.... you would be bottom 25% but i'd apply anyways