3.54 GPA, 170 LSAT: ED to Penn?

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3.54 GPA, 170 LSAT: ED to Penn?

Postby grimfan » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:13 am

GPA: 3.54
LSAT: 170

I'm pretty set on going to Penn if given the chance, and I plan to ED there. I feel like I'm right at the edge in terms of numbers, and Law School Predictor puts me at a "Consider" with 44% at/below. I've checked LSN, and though ED info is scarce, there are definitely some people with my numbers who've gotten in ED, which makes me feel better. But the wider RD data seems to be hit-or-miss.

I thought of ED'ing to NYU, but it seems too difficult and since I don't have any interest in PI, NYU's advantages over Penn don't seem that important. I'd consider Michigan ED, but I don't want to do summer start. I like UVA, but I'd much rather be on an urban campus.

I feel quite certain that ED to Penn is the right decision for me, but I'd be interested in any feedback. What are my chances? How much of a boost do you think I will get from this?

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Re: 3.54 GPA, 170 LSAT: ED to Penn?

Postby Tiago Splitter » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:20 am

Sounds like you really want Penn, so go for it. I'd say ED takes you from reject to decent shot.

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Re: 3.54 GPA, 170 LSAT: ED to Penn?

Postby grimfan » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:33 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:Sounds like you really want Penn, so go for it. I'd say ED takes you from reject to decent shot.


Thanks man. Hope you're right!

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Re: 3.54 GPA, 170 LSAT: ED to Penn?

Postby coldshoulder » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:37 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:Sounds like you really want Penn, so go for it. I'd say ED takes you from reject to decent shot.


How would Penn be a "Reject" for him? Considering law school numbers I'd say he's got about a 50/50 chance.

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Re: 3.54 GPA, 170 LSAT: ED to Penn?

Postby santaclara12 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:46 pm

grimfan-


very similar gpa and shooting for 170 also. General consensus seems to be NYU is a looooong shot but it is my dream. Penn seems to be the best option for our numbers along with Mich/UVA. Check out the "how to be a successful splitter thread". It has some info you might find useful.

Best of luck

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Re: 3.54 GPA, 170 LSAT: ED to Penn?

Postby Samara » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:47 pm

coldshoulder wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:Sounds like you really want Penn, so go for it. I'd say ED takes you from reject to decent shot.


How would Penn be a "Reject" for him? Considering law school numbers I'd say he's got about a 50/50 chance.

Yeah, I don't think RD would be auto-ding, but ED looks to be the way to go. Good luck!

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Re: 3.54 GPA, 170 LSAT: ED to Penn?

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:13 pm

coldshoulder wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:Sounds like you really want Penn, so go for it. I'd say ED takes you from reject to decent shot.


How would Penn be a "Reject" for him? Considering law school numbers I'd say he's got about a 50/50 chance.


Lots of applicants right on Penn's 170 median and with GPA's in this range (3.45 to 3.65). Let's take a look:

http://penn.lawschoolnumbers.com/applic ... ,8&type=jd

Expanding the range isn't fair because 169 is auto-reject and 171 makes a big difference. Rumor has it that Penn's median has gone up to 171, here is the breakdown from last year:

4 acceptances, 1 of which was ED.
2 straight rejections
8 waitlists, which I consider rejections as well.

So 3 non ED applicants got in out of 13 who tried. Well under 50/50.

2009:

2 Acceptances
2 Rejections
0 Waitlists

2008:

1 acceptance
0 rejections
11 waitlists

URMs are of course excluded. Perhaps reject was too strong a term, but if the median is in fact 171, then perhaps not. I'd give 4/1 betting that he would be waitlisted or rejected if applying regular decision. ED would seem to bring those odds up significantly.




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