3.43 / 178 splitter, HYS C or bust

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Re: 3.43 / 178 splitter, HYS C or bust

Postby booboo » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:14 pm

rayiner wrote:
ahduth wrote:You want to jump to a V10 firm, because you don't like i-banking hours? Wat.


People at V10's don't work i-banking hours. My brother, as a summer at one of the three firms mentioned by the OP, came into work at 6:30 am and left sometimes as late as midnight. He got most weekends off, but was dead tired from the workweek. Lawyers might work these hours for short bursts at a time, but not consistently like bankers do.

Law = work cuts into your social life.
Banking = work cuts into your sleep.


As a summer? Ouch. At least in law summer'ing you can kind of fool yourself into thinking working at the firm is rainbows and sunshine.

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Re: 3.43 / 178 splitter, HYS C or bust

Postby IAFG » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:28 pm

booboo wrote:I'd caution IAFG's statement on hyperemployable because law firms sometimes see dual degree candidates as unworthy risks.

Pretty sure this is a TLS urban legend. Or maybe when the MBA isn't a top MBA.

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Re: 3.43 / 178 splitter, HYS C or bust

Postby rayiner » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:32 am

Hopefully2012 wrote:
rayiner wrote:
ahduth wrote:You want to jump to a V10 firm, because you don't like i-banking hours? Wat.


People at V10's don't work i-banking hours. My brother, as a summer at one of the three firms mentioned by the OP, came into work at 6:30 am and left sometimes as late as midnight. He got most weekends off, but was dead tired from the workweek. Lawyers might work these hours for short bursts at a time, but not consistently like bankers do.

Law = work cuts into your social life.
Banking = work cuts into your sleep.


Depends on the firm I think... I'm an assistant right now at a fairly predominant law firm and there are definitely more than a hand full of young associates here who work from 6:00 am until past midnight as well.

A lot of us have also heard about the skadden associate who's death at 32 was most likely related to stress due to law firm work... http://abovethelaw.com/2011/06/in-re-th ... associate/ in case you haven't.


Nobody comes into a law firm at 6 am, with the exception of a few female partners with young kids. Firms are deserted before 9 am.
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Re: 3.43 / 178 splitter, HYS C or bust

Postby rayiner » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:33 am

booboo wrote:
rayiner wrote:
ahduth wrote:You want to jump to a V10 firm, because you don't like i-banking hours? Wat.


People at V10's don't work i-banking hours. My brother, as a summer at one of the three firms mentioned by the OP, came into work at 6:30 am and left sometimes as late as midnight. He got most weekends off, but was dead tired from the workweek. Lawyers might work these hours for short bursts at a time, but not consistently like bankers do.

Law = work cuts into your social life.
Banking = work cuts into your sleep.


As a summer? Ouch. At least in law summer'ing you can kind of fool yourself into thinking working at the firm is rainbows and sunshine.


And he was in trading, which is supposed to be a bit easier hours-wise than i-banking.

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Re: 3.43 / 178 splitter, HYS C or bust

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:51 am

rayiner wrote:Nobody comes into a law firm at 6 am, with the exception of a few female partners with young kids. Firms are deserted before 9 am.


This is going to sound crazy, but people do practice law in places other than New York.

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Re: 3.43 / 178 splitter, HYS C or bust

Postby hdsoc » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:11 am

rayiner wrote:
ahduth wrote:You want to jump to a V10 firm, because you don't like i-banking hours? Wat.


People at V10's don't work i-banking hours. My brother, as a summer at one of the three firms mentioned by the OP, came into work at 6:30 am and left sometimes as late as midnight. He got most weekends off, but was dead tired from the workweek. Lawyers might work these hours for short bursts at a time, but not consistently like bankers do.

Law = work cuts into your social life.
Banking = work cuts into your sleep.


I agree that banking's hours are a bit more brutal than law, but we're talking about a matter of degrees. The folks I know in both fields work tough hours. I know lawyers who work from 6 to midnight and lawyers who work on weekends.

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Re: 3.43 / 178 splitter, HYS C or bust

Postby dkt4 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:05 pm

if you're in banking and want prestige and money, you want to do law because...?

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Re: 3.43 / 178 splitter, HYS C or bust

Postby rayiner » Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:19 pm

hdsoc wrote:
rayiner wrote:
People at V10's don't work i-banking hours. My brother, as a summer at one of the three firms mentioned by the OP, came into work at 6:30 am and left sometimes as late as midnight. He got most weekends off, but was dead tired from the workweek. Lawyers might work these hours for short bursts at a time, but not consistently like bankers do.

Law = work cuts into your social life.
Banking = work cuts into your sleep.


I agree that banking's hours are a bit more brutal than law, but we're talking about a matter of degrees. The folks I know in both fields work tough hours. I know lawyers who work from 6 to midnight and lawyers who work on weekends.


I think the difference is qualitative, not just a matter of degree. At least for me, there is a world of difference between coming into work at 9:30 versus coming in at 6:30. NY lawyers do not work 18 hour days, consistently, to the point where work cuts into their sleep, consistently. NY bankers do. That distinction might very well push things over the line for OP.

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Re: 3.43 / 178 splitter, HYS C or bust

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:24 pm

rayiner wrote:
hdsoc wrote:I agree that banking's hours are a bit more brutal than law, but we're talking about a matter of degrees. The folks I know in both fields work tough hours. I know lawyers who work from 6 to midnight and lawyers who work on weekends.


I think the difference is qualitative, not just a matter of degree. At least for me, there is a world of difference between coming into work at 9:30 versus coming in at 6:30. NY lawyers do not work 18 hour days, consistently, to the point where work cuts into their sleep, consistently. NY bankers do. That distinction might very well push things over the line for OP.


And LA lawyers work less than NY lawyers. The lawyers I've talked to in the Twin Cities and Southern California seem to consistently work 7:30-6:30 type hours. There are times when they start earlier or leave later, but 6 am to midnight is nowhere near normal.




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