4.0/174 - What do you think?

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby lawyerwannabe » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:58 pm

lawgod wrote:
lawyerwannabe wrote:
sunynp wrote: Question: why do you bring your kids to Iraq with you instead of leaving them in DC with your husband?


Didn't you read the original post? It is because OP is a Marshall Scholar. Marshall Scholars do as they please regardless of what is logical.


To help their softs when they apply to University of Denver.


lawgod is full of great advice. Moreover, this could easily be the topic of OP's PS. Knock that off your "Application Worries List".

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby MumofCad » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:00 pm

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby lawgod » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:05 pm

Ok, I don't actually think OP is trolling. And I believe her that she meant to say lurking.
But I'll keep making fun anyway. Probably I'm jealous?

OP: You don't need any advice, except that you are selling yourself way short, and I don't know why. Talk to a couple of lawyer friends if you want.

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby MumofCad » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:06 pm

sunynp wrote:"Yield protection"is a product of the USNWR ranking system. Yield is the percentage of accepted students who enroll in the school and is part of the ranking. The higher the yield, the better for the ranking. This means sometimes schools don't accept students who have high numbers - they think that the student is likely to go somewhere else - so they waitlist that student.

You probably are aware that law school admissions are completely numbers and ranking based. But I think your strong softs will help you with HYS. If I am wrong, which really , who knows, have a good plan for dealing with the yield protect. Focus your application for each school.

Question: why do you bring your kids to Iraq with you instead of leaving them in DC with your husband?


Partly, I wanted them to have the experience. We live in the safest part of the country - no kindappings or US deaths, in fact no US troops since the first few days of the war (Kurdistan). When I'm working they stay with a local family that has no English speakers so they've been fluent since birth in English and Kurdish, with a smattering of both Farsi and Arabic. They are as comfortable pick-nicking (the most favored of Iraqi Friday traditions) in the Kurdish mountains with former peshmerga fighters as shopping at the local Giant for groceries. Growing up in rural Oregon...its just a very different way of life that I wanted for them.

Namely though, I didn't leave them behind because I'm a hands-on mother. I couldn't possibly spend half the year away from my kids. It was hard enough for their father, but as a mother.....not even a remote possibility. Their safety was never a question, because of the area where they stayed. When I made trips to Kirkuk or Mosul, they never went.
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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby sunynp » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:11 pm

MumofCad - you know there are a number of resources on this site to help with your applications. I think you should decide which references are best to use because we can't really judge them. If you need people to read over your PS (personal statement) and your Yale 250, there are usually people here who will help you. It never hurts to have as many people as possible give input to your drafts.

I think a PS focusing on your drive and ambition, how you manage to maintain your life (which sound really challenging to me) and why you want to be in law now might be a place to start. You don't have to reveal secret information to prove that you are doing amazing things.

I think you should consider focusing a bit on why you want to attend each school in your application, which will take you a bit more time.

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby MumofCad » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:19 pm

sunynp wrote:
kapital98 wrote:
lawyerwannabe wrote:Are people actually taking this poster seriously? If you were OP, and have done everything OP claims to have done, would you even apply to some of the schools mentioned or even be asking about what your chances are in an online forum? No. A person like OP would have already done their due diligence, researched all the schools, seen that their numbers are amazing and that their softs are amazing, and know that they would gain acceptance to all of or at least one of HYS.

The OP even mentions people with low 160s LSAT scores getting into H and then wonders about their own chances? Really?


+1. It's either a flame or a not-so-subtle brag



You think someone would make up having 2 kids and morning sickness during the LSAT? Perhaps OP is really asking for advice from students who are immersed in the application process. I think posting here is part of her due diligence. Just because people here know a lot about schools and applying, you can't assume that everyone has the same knowledge.

OP's life and accomplishments are amazing, and I wish I had them, but why assume she is making this up?

I guess I don't mind looking like an idiot if OP turns out to be a troll. I would rather keep someone away from a stupid decision then assume they are fake. But that is just me. :)


Thank you for the sound reasoning and logic. Not sure why someone would make up my life. It was a nice confidence boost though that it looks made-up. I still think I need to broaden my list of top schools to be safe, but I feel much better about my crappy PS skills now. And really happy to have the advice that I need to put something into my PS answering the "why" question. I had planned to anyways by visiting, but now I see it needs to be more than an afterthought in my case. Need to look into how to do that effectively...

Do you have any schools you think I might consider adding to my list?

Now, I've got HYS
UVA
Chicago (added)
Sounds like G-town is another good safety option, even if I don't plan to actually attend.


I won't consider living in NY after living in London for a year. We were miserable. I'm a country girl and while I can do a city like DC and Chicago/Boston...never again going to ride a rickety old tube an hour in to take exams while 8 months pregnant. So that's NYU/Columbia out. Michigan seems awfully removed, but does have a really strong academic program in IR/ME affairs too so I'm sure I'd find interesting people there. I guess I should add it too.

That's be 7 schools. I'm exhausted just thinking about when to fit this background in.

Lawgod or wannabe: To answer your question, this is part of my research. Contrary to what many believe, not everyone who wants to attend HYS whittles away hours combing over the minute details of the law school app race. I'm not pompous enough to assume that I will be accepted anywhere in the T5. Feel free to count that against me. I'll do what I reasonably can to ensure I'm considered though, and that the place I choose is the right fit for my career and family.
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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby MumofCad » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:22 pm

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby treple » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:29 pm

I'm only posting this because I happened to see this on a whim and realized that a couple years ago I got some terrible advice from people on these forums and wanted to fix it.

I'm from Colorado (grew up there, college, etc.) , went to T-3 law school and landed in a V25 firm.

If you seriously want to move back to Colorado to work, I would add CU to your list. You'll easily get into both CU and DU but CU has a much stronger reputation. Honestly, you'll be shocked at how difficult it is to land a job in Colorado even with strong ties and HYS. To put it into perspective, only two people got callbacks to any Colorado firms and none received offers in the last two years from my school. Those firms ended up taking almost exclusively CU/DU grads.

PM me if you want more information but honestly, a lot of the advice on here is from other kids who haven't even touched law school and don't have a feel for the difficulties of regional markets.

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby thecilent » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:32 pm

MumofCad wrote:
thecilent wrote:
lawgod wrote:
MumofCad wrote:First post, but I've been a troll for awhile now.


You don't say.

lol was going to point that out as well.


Everyone comes out of troll-dom at some point right? ;) I've actually just been looking around the general info for a few weeks, decided to look into visiting the colleges in the forum experiences, and then decided I might as well participate.

You're confusing "troll" for "lurker."

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby soj » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:34 pm

YHS and T14 full scholarships are your matches. Everything below is a safety. Congratulations!

I'm guessing the SLS alum will probably try to dissuade you based on the shitty legal job market. He's right, and even going to a top school won't guarantee you'll graduate with a job nowadays. The very top schools will more or less guarantee you a 2L summer job, but there's no guarantee you won't get no-offered.

But I'd be surprised if he gives you any good reasons for not attending that you couldn't find out just by reading TLS. Since you have good numbers, if you're sure you want to be a lawyer, I wouldn't let a bit of pessimism stop you.

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby Veyron » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:36 pm

Enjoy YALE.

How did you like the SFS by the way?

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby treple » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:40 pm

soj wrote:YHS and T14 full scholarships are your matches. Everything below is a safety. Congratulations!

I'm guessing the SLS alum will probably try to dissuade you based on the shitty legal job market. He's right, and even going to a top school won't guarantee you'll graduate with a job nowadays. The very top schools will more or less guarantee you a 2L summer job, but there's no guarantee you won't get no-offered.

But I'd be surprised if he gives you any good reasons for not attending that you couldn't find out just by reading TLS. Since you have good numbers, if you're sure you want to be a lawyer, I wouldn't let a bit of pessimism stop you.


It's not pessimism; it's reality. I landed plenty of offers in NY and will have a great career. The point is merely that I had to give up on going back to Colorado for now. If that's a big deal to you, then you should be aware of the challenges you face before making that decision.
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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby soj » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:43 pm

treple wrote:If that's a big deal to you, then you should be aware of the challenges you face before making that decision.

I agree with you completely, and I wasn't referring to your post, though it might look like it.

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby lawyerwannabe » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:49 pm

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby lawgod » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:50 pm

lawyerwannabe wrote: If (2), then please stop trolling.


Really? This was fun.

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby lawyerwannabe » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:52 pm

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby shoeshine » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:57 pm

Worst flame ever. Next time, be entertaining.

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby MumofCad » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:11 pm

Veyron wrote:Enjoy YALE.

How did you like the SFS by the way?


Sorry, not ignoring. Not sure what SFS means...

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby ebeth » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:19 pm

OP, since you entitled your thread "What do you think?", I'll answer your question and say that I think you're an auto-admit to Yale. But you really don't need me, or anyone else, to tell you that. Good luck with the rest of your pregnancy.

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Re: 4.0/174 - What do you think?

Postby Danteshek » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:28 pm

It is so nice to see humility in a person so successful. I think you were very smart to take time off before going to law school. You are also smart to start a family - so many women go through law school, get a job, and don't think about having children until it is too late. What are your goals for after law school?




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