167; Where should I apply?

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167; Where should I apply?

Postby hls or bust » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:47 pm

Hello TLS!

This is my first post and I am seeking guidance. I am coming out of a top 20 university where I had dual liberal arts majors and a GPA of 3.94. After a first LSAT score of 156 I retook it and got a 167. I have a few fairly non-substantive activities and no real work experience on my resume as of now. I did, however, receive a Fulbright scholarship between college and law school. I also have an exceptional personality!! To help you determine my chances, I am a white female.

Can you help me out with my shot for each t14 school?

THANKS!
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Re: Dying for HLS w/ 167; thoughts?

Postby UnitarySpace » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:49 pm

If you're really HLS or bust, you should retake the LSAT.

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Re: Dying for HLS w/ 167; thoughts?

Postby Moxie » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:50 pm

Retake and get a 173+, HLS would then be possible. But with a 167, no.

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Re: Dying for HLS w/ 167; thoughts?

Postby Muenchen » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:53 pm

These two both have it right. As a white female, your chances are approaching zero, I'm sorry to say. Study your ass off and good luck.

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Re: Dying for HLS w/ 167; thoughts?

Postby hls or bust » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:56 pm

Points taken, but what about my GPA and prestigious scholarship? Will they count for anything or offset the LSAT in anyway? Also, could you comment on other T14 schools (I obviously know that HLS might be a stretch--but sometimes you never know how these things work out)!!

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Re: Dying for HLS w/ 167; thoughts?

Postby Muenchen » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:59 pm

hls or bust wrote:Points taken, but what about my GPA and prestigious scholarship? Will they count for anything or offset the LSAT in anyway? Also, could you comment on other T14 schools (I obviously know that HLS might be a stretch--but sometimes you never know how these things work out)!!

Honestly, your GPA is a dime a dozen. It's not even at Harvard's 75th percentile for GPAs. Your scholarship, while impressive, is not close to enough to overcome your LSAT. When applying to H, you should generally assume that you're going up against softs that blow yours out of the water. Fullbrights, Rhodes Scholars, PhDs, Peace Corps, etc.

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Re: Dying for HLS w/ 167; thoughts?

Postby sunynp » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:00 pm

Muenchen wrote:
hls or bust wrote:Points taken, but what about my GPA and prestigious scholarship? Will they count for anything or offset the LSAT in anyway? Also, could you comment on other T14 schools (I obviously know that HLS might be a stretch--but sometimes you never know how these things work out)!!

Honestly, your GPA is a dime a dozen. It's not even at Harvard's 75th percentile for GPAs. Your scholarship, while impressive, is not close to enough to overcome your LSAT. When applying to H, you should generally assume that you're going up against softs that blow yours out of the water. Fullbrights, Rhodes Scholars, PhDs, Peace Corps, etc.

Didn't OP say she was a Fulbright Scholar? :?

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Re: Dying for HLS w/ 167; thoughts?

Postby bhan87 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:01 pm

hls or bust wrote:Points taken, but what about my GPA and prestigious scholarship? Will they count for anything or offset the LSAT in anyway? Also, could you comment on other T14 schools (I obviously know that HLS might be a stretch--but sometimes you never know how these things work out)!!


No it won't. The only people that get accepted with an LSAT that low are 1. URM 2. Have unbelievable softs (which yours don't compete with).

Remember this is HARVARD. There's no shortage of Rhodes scholars, famous authors, people with PhDs, and those that have your GPA AND a near perfect LSAT score.

With a 167, CCN is a target/reach. Could get them, but I wouldn't bank on it.

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Re: Dying for HLS w/ 167; thoughts?

Postby bhan87 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:02 pm

sunynp wrote:Didn't OP say she was a Fulbright Scholar? :?


Point is there are already enough Fulbright Scholars (or those with comparable scholarships) with 172+ LSATs applying.

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Re: Dying for HLS w/ 167; thoughts?

Postby Muenchen » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:02 pm

sunynp wrote:
Muenchen wrote:
hls or bust wrote:Points taken, but what about my GPA and prestigious scholarship? Will they count for anything or offset the LSAT in anyway? Also, could you comment on other T14 schools (I obviously know that HLS might be a stretch--but sometimes you never know how these things work out)!!

Honestly, your GPA is a dime a dozen. It's not even at Harvard's 75th percentile for GPAs. Your scholarship, while impressive, is not close to enough to overcome your LSAT. When applying to H, you should generally assume that you're going up against softs that blow yours out of the water. Fullbrights, Rhodes Scholars, PhDs, Peace Corps, etc.

Didn't OP say she was a Fulbright Scholar? :?

Yes, I saw that, but I can also almost guarantee she will not be the only Fullbright applying to Harvard.

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Re: T14 w/ 167; thoughts?

Postby Verity » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:16 pm

Blanket MVPBDN, and ED to one of them if you're really interested in it. I'd say Cornell is a lock. Also, 14-20 will give you serious money.

No HYS. Also, CCN unlikely, but throw in apps if you want.

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Re: 167; Where should I apply?

Postby mattviphky » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:33 am

retake for HLS. good job on the lsat jump, a 167 is nothing to scoff at, especially when coming from a 158. If you have that good of a personality and get into h you should date me too lol




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