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Re: Chances at T14 ED? 165/3.83

Postby law4vus » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:18 pm

UCFtau wrote:Hey everyone, looking for some insight. I know that likely my only chances at T14 with my numbers are via ED'ing somewhere. Along with my numbers and ED status would obviously come a lack of scholarship money. I am trying to wade through the personal dilemma of applying for admission through a binding ED at a T14 (and thus closing all other options) with a good likelihood of coming out the other side with 200k in debt or keeping options open to see which regional schools offer up money.

First thing is first though; do I even have a chance for an ED acceptance in the T14 (particularly UVA)?


It's possible, but it looks like UVA has been waitlisting most people with your numbers according to LSN. Best bet is to retake and get a 170+, and that way you won't have to ED and lose the opportunity for scholarship money.

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Re: Chances at T14 ED? 165/3.83

Postby aaaaaah » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:53 pm

Are you URM? If not, I'm sorry, but I really don't see you cracking the T14 even w/ ED. I'd consider a retake if that's your goal.

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Re: Chances at T14 ED? 165/3.83

Postby dabbadon8 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:53 pm

UCFtau wrote:No URM status here. As for the retake option, 165 was 3 points above my PT average (after 20 tests) with 4.5 months of prep and was a 16 point increase from my diagnostic. In other words, I plateaued with regards to my LSAT. Even with a well put together application, are my chances that dismal? Anywhere close to a 50/50 shot? A coin flip chance would be more than satisfactory.



I think you have close to zero shot as it is. You need to have at least one number over their medians. If you can bring your GPA over their median, which I believe is 3.85, I think you will have a decent shot.

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Re: Chances at T14 ED? 165/3.83

Postby albanach » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:54 pm

UCFtau wrote:No URM status here. As for the retake option, 165 was 3 points above my PT average (after 20 tests) with 4.5 months of prep and was a 16 point increase from my diagnostic. In other words, I plateaued with regards to my LSAT. Even with a well put together application, are my chances that dismal? Anywhere close to a 50/50 shot? A coin flip chance would be more than satisfactory.


In that case there's still 40 more PTs out there for you to do. How can you tell that you've plateaued? You need to find some weaknesses and work on correcting them, not accept that 165 is your ceiling.

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Re: Chances at T14 ED? 165/3.83

Postby barry » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:55 pm

yea that's rough if you literally had a .02 higher gpa you would be a near lock at UVA, hmmm maybe try a UMich or a GULC PT ED

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Re: Chances at T14 ED? 165/3.83

Postby crossingforHYS » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:00 pm

try uva....they give you a decision in 14 days. If it doesnt work...go for another ED

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Re: Chances at T14 ED? 165/3.83

Postby albanach » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:34 pm

crossingforHYS wrote:try uva....they give you a decision in 14 days. If it doesnt work...go for another ED


I think the problem with that is the likelihood of being waitlisted on account of the low LSAT, squandering a shot at one of the most ED friendly schools in the T14. 165 is below the 25th percentile for LSAT scores and 3.83 is below median for GPA. I thought the rule of thumb was to try and have at least one score above median so you bring something positive to one of the school's stats.

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Re: Chances at T14 ED? 165/3.83

Postby Puttanesca » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:40 pm

UCFtau wrote: First thing is first though; do I even have a chance for an ED acceptance in the T14 (particularly UVA)?


TBH, if you're not going to retake and raise your LSAT score, your GPA will probably be too low for a UVA acceptance. If you had a 165/3.9 and applied ED to UVA, I would think you would have a very good shot but as other posters have said, 3.83 is below UVA's median.

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Re: Chances at T14 ED? 165/3.83

Postby aerogear » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:43 pm

albanach wrote:
UCFtau wrote:No URM status here. As for the retake option, 165 was 3 points above my PT average (after 20 tests) with 4.5 months of prep and was a 16 point increase from my diagnostic. In other words, I plateaued with regards to my LSAT. Even with a well put together application, are my chances that dismal? Anywhere close to a 50/50 shot? A coin flip chance would be more than satisfactory.


In that case there's still 40 more PTs out there for you to do. How can you tell that you've plateaued? You need to find some weaknesses and work on correcting them, not accept that 165 is your ceiling.


+1

I've seen people slide in this cycle with similiar numbers.. but I'd highly consider retaking LSATs and aiming for at least a 170+.

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Re: Chances at T14 ED? 165/3.83

Postby idratherbetraveling » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:30 pm

If you're in-state at Texas, you've got a great chance (assuming you want to go there). It might be worth throwing an app their way regardless.

As far as the T-20 goes, WashU is probably your best bet (and even if you get off the waitlist, you might get $). Maybe GW is second-best.

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Re: Chances at T14 ED? 165/3.83

Postby PleaseHelpThanks » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:04 am

albanach wrote:
UCFtau wrote:No URM status here. As for the retake option, 165 was 3 points above my PT average (after 20 tests) with 4.5 months of prep and was a 16 point increase from my diagnostic. In other words, I plateaued with regards to my LSAT. Even with a well put together application, are my chances that dismal? Anywhere close to a 50/50 shot? A coin flip chance would be more than satisfactory.


In that case there's still 40 more PTs out there for you to do. How can you tell that you've plateaued? You need to find some weaknesses and work on correcting them, not accept that 165 is your ceiling.


+1

OP, you can do it, suck it up and re-take! Trust albanach, myself, and the other 20 thousand TLS users who will tell you the same thing. And what's funny, most of the people that want to tell you this won't, because this subject has been played to death, and what always happens is (my case included), the dumb shit TLS user thinks she/he knows what the hell they're talking about, and chooses to live in the pretend world, in which, a mediocre LSAT score won't completely rob your chances of being your best, or being at the school you want to be in, all because we choose to avoid all that work because, hey, I hit my plateau! NO YOU FUCKING DIDN'T! Can you really look yourself in the eye and say you cannot get above a 170 if you completely devoted yourself until February? Yes I said February (but only if it takes that long to get above a 170/your best score, which is above a 170, trust me). When these schools all put you on their waitlist because of your 165, they will love you when they go over your app later on and you have that new LSAT score. Now go study, and be thankful that you can still control your fate, and that you are going to take this advice and save yourself thousands of dollars/ get into a better school/ be able to say you tried your hardest / But most importantly, PROFIT! Don’t be ok with where you stand! There is no reason for you not to retake till you get a 170! TRUST TLS! Trust the stats! Trust that we know how much it will help you to get into a better school… You don’t want to bank on being the exception to the mediocre LSAT rule, for realz!

Also, let’s just say you get into where you want to be, well guess what, if you study for three to six more months, I would bet you will save yourself about 30-90k in scholarship money, and now, with that in mind, is it still not worth it? Is all that money not worth you sucking it up and trying your hardest? You can do this!

Just in case you need more proof that your GPA means nothing when compared with your LSAT score:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=133286&start=125

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Re: Chances at T14 ED? 165/3.83

Postby flexityflex86 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:07 am

Maybe Cornell? All others are no chance, but I bet you'll be on waitlists from Columbia down, then face slow painful rejections. You might want to try GWU ED.




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