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Re: 169, 4.0, Macaulay Honors... chances?

Postby TaipeiMort » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:03 pm

Male or Female? With a 169 and F, you may be able to get money at NYU and maybe Chicago (they have extra money to give out with the Rubenstien inflow).

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Re: 169, 4.0, Macaulay Honors... chances?

Postby AreJay711 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:09 pm

TaipeiMort wrote:Male or Female? With a 169 and F, you may be able to get money at NYU and maybe Chicago (they have extra money to give out with the Rubenstien inflow).

I don't think that is the case. There is no female bonus.

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Re: 169, 4.0, Macaulay Honors... chances?

Postby TaipeiMort » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:25 pm

AreJay711 wrote:
TaipeiMort wrote:Male or Female? With a 169 and F, you may be able to get money at NYU and maybe Chicago (they have extra money to give out with the Rubenstien inflow).

I don't think that is the case. There is no female bonus.


I used to think so too, but we had a lunch tallk at uChicago on affirmative action where one of the profs made it clear that the distribution curves of male and female lsat takers are different. Male had larger tails, meaning more low scores and elite scores. Based upon this distribution, there are naturally fewer female very high LSAT scores. Therefore, the mean scores for women and men are different at top schools, who try to achieve roughly equal groups of men and women.

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Re: 169, 4.0, Macaulay Honors... chances?

Postby Bildungsroman » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:44 pm

TaipeiMort wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:
TaipeiMort wrote:Male or Female? With a 169 and F, you may be able to get money at NYU and maybe Chicago (they have extra money to give out with the Rubenstien inflow).

I don't think that is the case. There is no female bonus.


I used to think so too, but we had a lunch tallk at uChicago on affirmative action where one of the profs made it clear that the distribution curves of male and female lsat takers are different. Male had larger tails, meaning more low scores and elite scores. Based upon this distribution, there are naturally fewer female very high LSAT scores. Therefore, the mean scores for women and men are different at top schools, who try to achieve roughly equal groups of men and women.

Did the UChicago professor explicitly say that Chicago gives a tangible boost to female applicants or is that a conclusion you came to on your own?

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Re: 169, 4.0, Macaulay Honors... chances?

Postby kulshan » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:21 pm

This is an interesting topic. Anyone else heard anything like this?

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Re: 169, 4.0, Macaulay Honors... chances?

Postby TaipeiMort » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:07 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
TaipeiMort wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:
TaipeiMort wrote:Male or Female? With a 169 and F, you may be able to get money at NYU and maybe Chicago (they have extra money to give out with the Rubenstien inflow).

I don't think that is the case. There is no female bonus.


I used to think so too, but we had a lunch tallk at uChicago on affirmative action where one of the profs made it clear that the distribution curves of male and female lsat takers are different. Male had larger tails, meaning more low scores and elite scores. Based upon this distribution, there are naturally fewer female very high LSAT scores. Therefore, the mean scores for women and men are different at top schools, who try to achieve roughly equal groups of men and women.

Did the UChicago professor explicitly say that Chicago gives a tangible boost to female applicants or is that a conclusion you came to on your own?


He did not provide any hard data or first-hand experience, as he isn't on the admissions committee. Rather, he just presented the two different LSAT (and IQ) distributions of men and women and made the comment that because of this situation, the reality is that there are less high LSAT for uChicago to take among men than women, so the administration had to be more flexible with men than women to achieve equal numbers.

He also made the comment that uChicago is the last of t6 schools to not apply affirmative action to law review make up.

In terms of my class though, I did not notice any type of difference in male/female intelligence. In fact, I'd say that 70% of the gunners and the majority of writing award winners were female.

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Re: 169, 4.0, Macaulay Honors... chances?

Postby Bildungsroman » Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:22 pm

TaipeiMort wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:Did the UChicago professor explicitly say that Chicago gives a tangible boost to female applicants or is that a conclusion you came to on your own?


He did not provide any hard data or first-hand experience, as he isn't on the admissions committee. Rather, he just presented the two different LSAT (and IQ) distributions of men and women and made the comment that because of this situation, the reality is that there are less high LSAT for uChicago to take among men than women, so the administration had to be more flexible with men than women to achieve equal numbers.

Except they don't achieve equal numbers. Chicago's class is about 55% men/45% women (LinkRemoved), despite roughly equal amounts of men and women taking the LSAT.

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Re: 169, 4.0, Macaulay Honors... chances?

Postby Homer88 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:36 pm

Thanks for all the help everyone, and btw I am a male. I think I'm leaning toward nyu Ed... What do you realistically think my chances are with that?
Thanks!




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