3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

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3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby Fleurdelis6111 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:24 pm

Hey, what does anyone think my chances are with a 3.9 / 167 at:

Stanford,
Columbia,
Chicago,
NYU,
Berkeley,
Northwestern,
Georgetown,
George Washington,
Minnesota, and
Fordham?

No URM, okay PS, VP of the pre-law club at my state university 2010-2011, and in the National Tournament for the American Collegiate Moot Court Association in 2010-2011. Thank you! :)

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby splitmuch » Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:26 pm

Retake

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby cinephile » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:07 pm

You should be in at George Washington, Minnesota, and Fordham.

Maybe at Berkeley and Northwestern.

ETA: you should think about adding Cornell to that list
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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby dpk711 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:39 pm

splitmuch wrote:Retake

What a douchey response.

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby ThomasMN » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:42 pm

dpk711 wrote:
splitmuch wrote:Retake

What a douchey response.


Its what a solid faction of TLS will say if you have a LSAT score below a 170.

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby dpk711 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:49 pm

ThomasMN wrote:
dpk711 wrote:
splitmuch wrote:Retake

What a douchey response.


Its what a solid faction of TLS will say if you have a LSAT score below a 170.

No, TLS will tell you to retake if OP doesn't have a school worth going to, obviously OP can still get into a good school with that GPA including some of the bottom T14 and T20s with serious $$$.

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby buckilaw » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:53 pm

You might want to look at MVP with those numbers. An ED at Mich, or especially UVA very early in the cycle, could give you a good shot at a T-14 acceptance. Might even get a bit of $ at Mich (even if you are accepted ED).

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby d34d9823 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:09 pm

If there's any chance you can raise your score (and there probably is), you should retake. That 3.9 is gold. You could up the value of your career prospects by tens of thousands of dollars with just a few more points on the LSAT.

If you're not up for that, take MVPB with a little money I guess.

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby paulinaporizkova » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:10 pm

hola numbers twin. i'm going to UVa this fall, got waitlisted at Penn, rejected at Michigan, waitlisted at Chi (soft rejection i think, i withdrew) and i got a full ride scholarship at UMN plus living stipend, but i am a resident. i suggest applying to Michigan, Penn, and Virginia as well. many people with the same #s as us have been accepted to one of those, either ED, RD, or off the waitlist ED/RD. those will probably be your top realistic contenders. good luck!

ETA: also got accepted to Georgetown (and Cornell FTR) but i didn't apply to any other schools on your list

also, i applied EARLY (like september, and that helped i think)

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby splitmuch » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:12 pm

dpk711 wrote:
ThomasMN wrote:
dpk711 wrote:
splitmuch wrote:Retake

What a douchey response.


Its what a solid faction of TLS will say if you have a LSAT score below a 170.

No, TLS will tell you to retake if OP doesn't have a school worth going to, obviously OP can still get into a good school with that GPA including some of the bottom T14 and T20s with serious $$$.


Honestly i tell anyone with a 3.9 to retake. The OP is obviously smart, hitting 170 will bring worthwhile benefits, and if they can hit 173 they have a good shot at HYS, are in at CCN and are looking at $$$ elsewhere. Now, if youre someone who will be miserable studying for the LSAT and taking it again, then maybe be happy with the good options available. But I tend to think that if you'ved already worked your ass off to get a 3.9, the additional effort required to retake could very well be worth it. Obviously tehre are good options available, but even better options are possible.

Douchey i guess, but I wish someone would have been douchey to me when I was slacking my way through UG.

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby D-hops » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:16 pm

The retake advice is pretty credited if there is room for improvement. Look around the boards for advice on studying for the LSAT and if you didn't go all out on the studying like is recommended, retaking can potentially open up a ton of doors and $$$$ to you.

I had the same stats and I got in at NU and Michigan and WL at Duke and UVA. No $ anywhere in the T14. To this day, I regret not retaking. Well, somewhat.

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby TheFactor » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:28 am

Numbers twin here. Got a couple T14s and $$$ at Vandy/GW. If you don't mind paying sticker, you have a great shot at MPVD w/ ED. Apply early w/ a solid application and you should snag at least one of DCG and get $$$ at Texas/Vandy/UCLA on down.

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby Fleurdelis6111 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:00 pm

Thx everyone. Would something like a 169 or 170 in October really be that much of a change? Also, I may have a 4.0 after being a senior; the 3.9 is just if I make any "B"s from here on. IDK if that's a big deal, but I could be wrong?

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby splitmuch » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:04 pm

Fleurdelis6111 wrote:Thx everyone. Would something like a 169 or 170 in October really be that much of a change? Also, I may have a 4.0 after being a senior; the 3.9 is just if I make any "B"s from here on. IDK if that's a big deal, but I could be wrong?


There were 4.0 169 and 4.0 170 acceptances at HLS this year, no non URM got in with a 167. If you think that you can improve by at least 2 points, definitely retake.

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby laughsalot06 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:10 pm

I had similar stats (168, 4.0) and was waitlisted at Stanford, Michigan, Penn, Virginia, and Duke with no luck so far. I'm happy with my current school (just outside T14 with lots of money), but I know that with 2 more points on the LSAT I could have turned at least one of my WL into an acceptance. If I were you, I would retake in October and apply early. A few points on the LSAT and you could have different results from me.

Good luck!

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby D-hops » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:14 pm

laughsalot06 wrote:I had similar stats (168, 4.0) and was waitlisted at Stanford, Michigan, Penn, Virginia, and Duke with no luck so far. I'm happy with my current school (just outside T14 with lots of money), but I know that with 2 more points on the LSAT I could have turned at least one of my WL into an acceptance. If I were you, I would retake in October and apply early. A few points on the LSAT and you could have different results from me.

Good luck!


I forgot to mention how important this is. You want to get in your apps as early as you can because you don't want to be stuck in a situation where the schools have an idea of what their class looks like and start median protecting their LSAT score.

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby Snape » Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:46 pm

People who get in 1ith 167,168,169 to HYSCCNPBM tend to have above average softs and work experience, like TFA, Peace Corps, etc. HYSCCN are probably all out without 169+ and then still very tough if you are straight out of undergrad, if you have a very good PS and recs then you have a very good change to get in at sticker at one of PMVDG--Cornell is 50/50 as they seem to now have a 168 requirment and Duke loves 170....Northwestern ED would be a good shot if you have 2 years of work experience.

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby HeavenWood » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:59 am

buckilaw wrote:You might want to look at MVP with those numbers. An ED at Mich, or especially UVA very early in the cycle, could give you a good shot at a T-14 acceptance. Might even get a bit of $ at Mich (even if you are accepted ED).


Bingo. You have a decent shot at Cornell, Georgetown, and Vandy RD as well (just apply ASAP!)

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby d34d9823 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:05 am

Fleurdelis6111 wrote:Thx everyone. Would something like a 169 or 170 in October really be that much of a change? Also, I may have a 4.0 after being a senior; the 3.9 is just if I make any "B"s from here on. IDK if that's a big deal, but I could be wrong?

4.0/170 you have a chance at HS or Chicago with good money (Columbia/NYU will still probably not give you a ton). 4.0/167 you are looking at MVP with $ or CG with $$ (I'm pulling these numbers out of the air, use hourumd to have an idea - schollys are always a crapshoot).

Basically, it's a big deal. Each point is worth thousands of dollars.

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby ahduth » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:40 am

d34dluk3 wrote:Basically, it's a big deal. Each point is worth thousands of dollars.


+1. I wish I'd retaken my LSAT. :cry:

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby cinephile » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:26 pm

ahduth wrote:
d34dluk3 wrote:Basically, it's a big deal. Each point is worth thousands of dollars.


+1. I wish I'd retaken my LSAT. :cry:


Same. Still kind of considering it.

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Re: 3.9 GPA, 167 LSAT

Postby YourCaptain » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:54 pm

dont waste that gpa




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