Horrible undergrad track record

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Horrible undergrad track record

Postby twobrain » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:11 am

What are my chances of getting into a decent school (Fordham, most likely parttime) with a 2.4 ungrad GPA? I did go to grad school where I ended up with a 3.6 GPA (CS undergrad, IS graduate).
What kind of score would I need to even have a shot at a decent school?

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby FeelTheHeat » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:13 am

Unfortunately, its going to be REALLY tough. You would have to score a 170+ and spam the entire T1 and pray that you get accepted, let alone with $$$$.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby Flips88 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:14 am

FeelTheHeat wrote:Unfortunately, its going to be REALLY tough. You would have to score a 170+ and spam the entire T1 and pray that you get accepted, let alone with $$$$.

+1

or work for a significant enough amount of time to distance yourself from the grades and display maturity about taking work more seriously. But yeah, you're going to need a super high LSAT.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby twobrain » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:22 am

Flips88 wrote:
FeelTheHeat wrote:Unfortunately, its going to be REALLY tough. You would have to score a 170+ and spam the entire T1 and pray that you get accepted, let alone with $$$$.

+1

or work for a significant enough amount of time to distance yourself from the grades and display maturity about taking work more seriously. But yeah, you're going to need a super high LSAT.


Oops forgot to mention that I have been working for the past 5 years now.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby FeelTheHeat » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:23 am

172+, ED to NW.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby Ty Webb » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:23 am

FWIW, I got into a school ranked in the 50s with a 2.33/166.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby Justathought » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:50 am

2.4/164/URM/non-trad with great work experience here. I got into most of the T2s I applied to, plus American and SMU. I'm also on a few t30 wait lists. I think it will be very difficult, even with urm status, to get into Fordham. I don't know if a 175 would cut it, but it probably would, since you have some distance from your GPA.

Your best bet would be to get at least a 168. That would probably do the trick for select splitter friendly schools like Indiana. 169 would probably net you a good chance at WUSTL. 172 and your best chance would be NW. None of these are a sure thing, but its possible if you put together a very good application.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby mountaintime » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:57 am

172+: northwestern
168+: wustl
167+: illinois / minnesota
166+: emory / w&l
164+: gmu, indiana, maybe wake forest

some might be off by a point, and some may no longer be quite as splitter friendly as they were the past two cycles, but you get the idea

edit: I don't know if fordham is very splitter friendly

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby red_alertz » Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:27 pm

take testmasters

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby HWS08 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:30 pm

You should double check the LSAC website, but I *think* they combine your UG and grad GPAs when calculating your LSDAS GPA, which is what schools will look at. Their are calculators online you can use to figure it out, but your LSDAS GPA will be higher than your UG GPA. That might help you a little.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby Ty Webb » Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:30 pm

HWS08 wrote:You should double check the LSAC website, but I *think* they combine your UG and grad GPAs when calculating your LSDAS GPA, which is what schools will look at. Their are calculators online you can use to figure it out, but your LSDAS GPA will be higher than your UG GPA. That might help you a little.


No.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby red_alertz » Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:43 pm

HWS08 wrote:You should double check the LSAC website, but I *think* they combine your UG and grad GPAs when calculating your LSDAS GPA, which is what schools will look at. Their are calculators online you can use to figure it out, but your LSDAS GPA will be higher than your UG GPA. That might help you a little.


quit trolling

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby JamMasterJ » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:30 pm

mountaintime wrote:172+: northwestern
168+: wustl
167+: illinois / minnesota
166+: emory / w&l
164+: gmu, indiana, maybe wake forest

some might be off by a point, and some may no longer be quite as splitter friendly as they were the past two cycles, but you get the idea

edit: I don't know if fordham is very splitter friendly

169+: wustl
168+: illinois / minnesota
166+: indiana
emory I don't know about the others but these were too low and emory won't really take any sub 3.0s. IUB might be up to 167 next year as well.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby Verity » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:37 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:169+: wustl
168+: illinois / minnesota
166+: indiana
emory I don't know about the others but these were too low and emory won't really take any sub 3.0s. IUB might be up to 167 next year as well.



+1. This is accurate. Try to get a 180, though, you might get T14.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby 09042014 » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:40 pm

Rock that LSAT Brah.

Some T2's will give a full ride for a 170. A bunch of T1's will give some money. SMU is pretty good about that.


This year, Ill and WUSTL were a little more grad conscious.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby dpk711 » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:41 pm

Verity wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:169+: wustl
168+: illinois / minnesota
166+: indiana
emory I don't know about the others but these were too low and emory won't really take any sub 3.0s. IUB might be up to 167 next year as well.



+1. This is accurate. Try to get a 180, though, you might get T14.

I'm not quite sure if any T14 other than NU ED would take OP. Even with NU ED w/ crazy work experience, OP would be far away from a guaranteed acceptance. To be fair, 2.4 is a horrible GPA.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby 09042014 » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:42 pm

dpk711 wrote:
Verity wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:169+: wustl
168+: illinois / minnesota
166+: indiana
emory I don't know about the others but these were too low and emory won't really take any sub 3.0s. IUB might be up to 167 next year as well.



+1. This is accurate. Try to get a 180, though, you might get T14.

I'm not quite sure if any T14 other than NU ED would take OP. Even with NU ED w/ crazy work experience, OP would be far away from a guaranteed acceptance. To be fair, 2.4 is a horrible GPA.


Doesn't have to be crazy w/e. But you gotta rock the LSAT.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby red_alertz » Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:44 pm

2.4 isn't that bad

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby Flips88 » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:09 pm

red_alertz wrote:2.4 isn't that bad

A majority of Cs in pretty bad.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby red_alertz » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:13 am

what do you do then? what's the general lsat u need to get into a decent school?

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby reverendt » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:18 am

How long ago were the bad grades?
I got accepted across T2 with a 2.74 (the bad stuff was from 13 years prior, and I'd finally finished undergrad 1 year prior with straight As) and a 164.
You want to stress how you've grown/changed, etc., in an addendum.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby red_alertz » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:14 pm

write an addendum and 2.4 is just fine, good enough for most T1 schools

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby Flips88 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:23 pm

red_alertz wrote:write an addendum and 2.4 is just fine, good enough for most T1 schools

Goddamnit. Quit trolling.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby vanwinkle » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:25 pm

Flips88 wrote:
red_alertz wrote:2.4 isn't that bad

A majority of Cs in pretty bad.

You never know, it could be a mix of A/Bs and D/Fs.

Trust me, it's happened.

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Re: Horrible undergrad track record

Postby red_alertz » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:36 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
Flips88 wrote:
red_alertz wrote:2.4 isn't that bad

A majority of Cs in pretty bad.

You never know, it could be a mix of A/Bs and D/Fs.

Trust me, it's happened.


yeah, i had a bunch of A/Bs, and bunch of Fs, ended up LSAC 2.47




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