ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

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ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby Schfifty Five » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:27 pm

3.0 UGPA

170 LSAT

Pretty good softs.

What does it look like for me if I ED to SMU in the next cycle? I am worried that I may be shooting a little low. My dream would be Vandy, but I realize the futility of applying. Perhaps W&L or Texas?

Thanks.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby bhan87 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:29 pm

That's shooting low for an ED

Do you want to work in Texas? You oughta try shooting an ED to UTA

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby Bumi » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:30 pm

Here's an idea: don't ED, apply widely, negotiate up a scholarship at SMU, profit.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby kalvano » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:38 pm

SMU ED non-binding.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby kalvano » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:39 pm

bhan87 wrote:That's shooting low for an ED

Do you want to work in Texas? You oughta try shooting an ED to UTA



Won't happen, UT has about a 3.5 floor.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby kalvano » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:41 pm

Bumi wrote:negotiate up a scholarship at SMU



They don't negotiate.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby Bumi » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:42 pm

Wow, everything I said was wrong.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby Bumi » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:44 pm

If ED is nonbinding, what the hell are you asking us for? Is there any reason not to do it?

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby kalvano » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:44 pm

Bumi wrote:Wow, everything I said was wrong.



Nope, the apply widely was a good idea. OP can apply to SMU ED (highly recommended since they are slower than an arthritic turtle on Quaalude's), and not be bound to go. But he's likely to get good money from them as they favor LSAT.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby CanadianWolf » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:47 pm

Indiana might offer you $120,000 scholarship over 3 years. Iowa is another law school to consider for scholarship money.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby danquayle » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:50 pm

kalvano wrote:
bhan87 wrote:That's shooting low for an ED

Do you want to work in Texas? You oughta try shooting an ED to UTA



Won't happen, UT has about a 3.5 floor.


As much as I would love to disagree with Kalvano, this seems pretty accurate: http://texas.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats

I would say more of a 3.4 non-urm floor, but the point stands.

No reason not to do ED at SMU, but definitely apply to some of the splitter friendly schools. As mentioned, Indiana would likely give you money, and Northwestern would consider you. By all means, still apply to Texas as well... you never know.

OP, are you focusing on the South? If so, that makes a difference. I would think Emory might be a good option for in that scenario.

ALSO: Why not take a flier at Vandy? It looks like they're mostly waitlisting people in your range. Why not put in a flyer on the outside chance you get WL --> A.

http://vanderbilt.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1011/
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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby Schfifty Five » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:52 pm

I had no idea ED to SMU was non-binding. I didnt want to be a dick and W them.

I will be working in Texas, but do not want to go to Baylor or Houston.

Anyone know anything on Tulane for TX?

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby Schfifty Five » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:53 pm

danquayle wrote:
kalvano wrote:
bhan87 wrote:That's shooting low for an ED

Do you want to work in Texas? You oughta try shooting an ED to UTA



Won't happen, UT has about a 3.5 floor.


As much as I would love to disagree with Kalvano, this seems pretty accurate: http://texas.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats

I would say more of a 3.4 non-urm floor, but the point stands.

No reason not to do ED at SMU, but definitely apply to some of the splitter friendly schools. As mentioned, Indiana would likely give you money, and Northwestern would consider you. By all means, still apply to Texas as well... you never know.

OP, are you focusing on the South? If so, that makes a difference. I would think Emory might be a good option for in that scenario.




Yes, most definitely staying in the South. I've thought about Emory and UGA...but didnt really know how that would carry to TX.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby danquayle » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:00 pm

Schfifty Five wrote:I had no idea ED to SMU was non-binding. I didnt want to be a dick and W them.

I will be working in Texas, but do not want to go to Baylor or Houston.

Anyone know anything on Tulane for TX?


It claims 12% for Southwest. I'm guessing the bulk of that is in Texas. Given the proximity of Louisiana to Texas, that makes sense.

I'd still look at Emory, though it looks to have limited reach to Texas. (Though a portion of this could be self-selection).

http://www.law.emory.edu/fileadmin/care ... -11-10.pdf

All that being said, Texas is a strange beast in a lot of ways. The legal market is no exception. Texas has exceptional preference for its local law schools, so if you're dead set on Texas, I'd take SMU over Tulane and Emory. Not sure about Vanderbilt, but probably even over Vanderbilt.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby kalvano » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:09 pm

Schfifty Five wrote:I had no idea ED to SMU was non-binding. I didnt want to be a dick and W them.

I will be working in Texas, but do not want to go to Baylor or Houston.

Anyone know anything on Tulane for TX?



SMU > Tulane for Texas, unless you are talking bordering on Louisiana.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby Schfifty Five » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:09 pm

danquayle wrote:
Schfifty Five wrote:I had no idea ED to SMU was non-binding. I didnt want to be a dick and W them.

I will be working in Texas, but do not want to go to Baylor or Houston.

Anyone know anything on Tulane for TX?


It claims 12% for Southwest. I'm guessing the bulk of that is in Texas. Given the proximity of Louisiana to Texas, that makes sense.

I'd still look at Emory, though it looks to have limited reach to Texas. (Though a portion of this could be self-selection).

http://www.law.emory.edu/fileadmin/care ... -11-10.pdf

All that being said, Texas is a strange beast in a lot of ways. The legal market is no exception. Texas has exceptional preference for its local law schools, so if you're dead set on Texas, I'd take SMU over Tulane and Emory. Not sure about Vanderbilt, but probably even over Vanderbilt.



Thanks for the quick response.

Thats the thing, I will be working in Texas, and most likely in the DFW area.

Even though I could shoot higher, I'm not sure that it would pay dividends in the long run. (On the assumption that I wouldnt have a chance to get into the T14...)

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby kalvano » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:11 pm

Schfifty Five wrote:DFW area



Then go to SMU unless a T14 or Vanderbilt offers you good money.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby danquayle » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:20 pm

kalvano wrote:
Schfifty Five wrote:DFW area



Then go to SMU unless a T14 or Vanderbilt offers you good money.


Yeah, I'm good with that. You could probably snag a few T1 full rides, but I don't think it'd do you any good in Texas. Maybe send something Northwestern's way. Outside of that, I'd look exclusively at SMU, Texas and Vanderbilt. Maybe send apps to Tulane and a few other Texas schools as safeties.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby 09042014 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:21 pm

SMU gives amazing scholarships to splitters.

Apply ED if it isn't binding. But also apply to Gtown, northwestern and michigan.

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Re: ED to SMU 3.0/170...shooting high or low?

Postby fathergoose » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:28 pm

Desert Fox wrote:SMU gives amazing scholarships to splitters.

Apply ED if it isn't binding. But also apply to Gtown, northwestern and michigan.

This

At SMU now with similar numbers got pretty good $$.

Shoot for something better but SMU is a pretty nice place to end up




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