Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall '11 Cycle (Hypo 170)

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ClaytonR
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Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall '11 Cycle (Hypo 170)

Postby ClaytonR » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:35 pm

History/Mathematics Major

3.05 GPA (gradual rise), 168 LSAT (considered re-taking but I practiced in the 169-171 range after taking the real thing so looks like I reached my ceiling)

LORs: I'd feel comfortable asking two work supervisors and one professor at my school (a solid name for what it's worth but not in the field of law)

Softs: >100 volunteering hours freshman-senior years (each year), student government judicial review board, community service coordinator for on-campus organization, president of student club

Work Experience: part-time experience sophomore-senior years; full-time WE summers between soph.-junior & junior-senior years; two years AmeriCorps VISTA legal aid (fee waivers for the win!)

Chances at:
Michigan (ED)
Virginia (ED) oos
Cornell
Northwestern
GULC (ED)
George Washington
Fordham
WUSTL
BU
Illinois
BC

Anywhere I'm missing?
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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby paulinaporizkova » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:37 pm

ClaytonR wrote:History/Mathematics Major

3.01 GPA (gradual rise), 168 LSAT (considered re-taking but I practiced in the 169-171 range after taking the real thing so looks like I reached my ceiling)

Softs: >100 volunteering hours freshman-senior years, student government judicial review board, community service coordinator for on-campus organization, president of student club

Work Experience: part-time experience sophomore-senior years; full-time WE summers between soph.-junior & junior-senior years; two years AmeriCorps VISTA legal aid (fee waivers for the win!)

Chances at:
Michigan (ED)
Virginia (ED) oos
Cornell
Northwestern
GULC (ED)
George Washington
Fordham
WUSTL
BU
Illinois
BC

Anywhere I'm missing?


i don't have advice for everywhere, but UVA ED would only let you in with a 170+, i guarantee it. michigan ED might be worth a shot bc they're a little more holistic but a 3.0 is a really low GPA. i'd say you're out of T14 with that GPA and i would consider EDing 15-20 if you really want to go somewhere ranked high

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby Miracle » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:46 pm

You need to raise your LSAT. You need 170+

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby ClaytonR » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:49 pm

Miracle wrote:You need to raise your LSAT. You need 170+


What are my chances at the schools I listed the way things stand? ...and if I retake and score only 170?

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby paulinaporizkova » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:51 pm

ClaytonR wrote:
Miracle wrote:You need to raise your LSAT. You need 170+


What are my chances at the schools I listed the way things stand? ...and if I retake and score only 170?


with a 170, ED to Northwestern and you're in because you have WE. Seriously, but you neeeeeeed a 170 cuz that GPA sux ballz, no offense

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby paulinaporizkova » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:52 pm

Miracle wrote:You need to raise your LSAT. You need 170+


hi miracle!!

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby ClaytonR » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:52 pm

paulinaporizkova wrote:
ClaytonR wrote:
Miracle wrote:You need to raise your LSAT. You need 170+


What are my chances at the schools I listed the way things stand? ...and if I retake and score only 170?


with a 170, ED to Northwestern and you're in because you have WE. Seriously, but you neeeeeeed a 170 cuz that GPA sux ballz, no offense


I work in Chicago, for what it's worth.*

* - please don't quote this

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby paulinaporizkova » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:55 pm

sooooo ED to northwestern and profit from your myriad connections to the chicago market......after you retake and get a 170+

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby Miracle » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:56 pm

ClaytonR wrote:
Miracle wrote:You need to raise your LSAT. You need 170+


What are my chances at the schools I listed the way things stand? ...and if I retake and score only 170?


I have a 3.1 170+ and secured myself seat at Michigan, GULC, and Cornell to name a few.

You GPA is not terrible, and your LSAT is not terrible. Assuming that you graduated and there is nothing you can do about your GPA anymore the only thing you can control is your LSAT score. I can't say for sure what will happen with regards to T-14, but with 170 I think you can crack T-14.
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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby Miracle » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:57 pm

paulinaporizkova wrote:
Miracle wrote:You need to raise your LSAT. You need 170+


hi miracle!!


Hiiiiiiiiiiii,

how are you?

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby paulinaporizkova » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:00 pm

Miracle wrote:
paulinaporizkova wrote:
Miracle wrote:You need to raise your LSAT. You need 170+


hi miracle!!


Hiiiiiiiiiiii,

how are you?


good! a lil hungover and tired.....but at least some of the superbowl commercials have been funny!

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby Miracle » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:03 pm

paulinaporizkova wrote:
Miracle wrote:
paulinaporizkova wrote:
Miracle wrote:You need to raise your LSAT. You need 170+


hi miracle!!


Hiiiiiiiiiiii,

how are you?


good! a lil hungover and tired.....but at least some of the superbowl commercials have been funny!


Stealer are losinggggg-noooooooo

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby ClaytonR » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:03 pm

Miracle wrote:
ClaytonR wrote:
Miracle wrote:You need to raise your LSAT. You need 170+


What are my chances at the schools I listed the way things stand? ...and if I retake and score only 170?


I have a 3.1 170+ and secured myself seat at Michigan, GULC, and Cornell to name a few.

You GPA is not terrible, and your LSAT is not terrible. Assuming that you graduated and there is nothing you can do about your GPA anymore the only thing you can control is your LSAT score. I can't say for sure what will happen with regards to T-14, but with 170 I think you can crack T-14.


Are my softs/WE enough to push me over the edge (where I may have already been close) at a few schools? And enough to count as WE in Northwestern's eyes?

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby paulinaporizkova » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:04 pm

Miracle wrote:
Stealer are losinggggg-noooooooo


lol - steelers or stealers? or stealer?

i went to school at UW-Madison so i may or may not be rooting for the cheeseheads......

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby Miracle » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:05 pm

ClaytonR wrote:
Miracle wrote:
ClaytonR wrote:
Miracle wrote:You need to raise your LSAT. You need 170+


What are my chances at the schools I listed the way things stand? ...and if I retake and score only 170?


I have a 3.1 170+ and secured myself seat at Michigan, GULC, and Cornell to name a few.

You GPA is not terrible, and your LSAT is not terrible. Assuming that you graduated and there is nothing you can do about your GPA anymore the only thing you can control is your LSAT score. I can't say for sure what will happen with regards to T-14, but with 170 I think you can crack T-14.


Are my softs/WE enough to push me over the edge (where I may have already been close) at a few schools? And enough to count as WE in Northwestern's eyes?


Did you graduate already or are you still in school?

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby Miracle » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:06 pm

paulinaporizkova wrote:
Miracle wrote:
Stealer are losinggggg-noooooooo


lol - steelers or stealers? or stealer?

i went to school at UW-Madison so i may or may not be rooting for the cheeseheads......


STEELERSSSS! LOL

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby ClaytonR » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:07 pm

Miracle wrote:
Did you graduate already or are you still in school?


Class of 2009. My second year with an AmeriCorps group ends in August.

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby Miracle » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:10 pm

ClaytonR wrote:
Miracle wrote:
Did you graduate already or are you still in school?


Class of 2009. My second year with an AmeriCorps group ends in August.



If people with 2.8-2.9 GPA can get in GULC you can get in GULC or VA or Michigan. The only problem you have is your LSAT. You have to-HAVE TO, increase your LSAT to 170. It's not an option! ED somewhere, and you will be in a good position.

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby ClaytonR » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:12 pm

Miracle wrote:
ClaytonR wrote:
Miracle wrote:
Did you graduate already or are you still in school?


Class of 2009. My second year with an AmeriCorps group ends in August.



If people with 2.8-2.9 GPA can get in GULC you can get in GULC or VA or Michigan. The only problem you have is your LSAT. You have to-HAVE TO, increase your LSAT to 170. It's not an option! ED somewhere, and you will be in a good position.


Okay! Chance me the schools I listed with a provisional 170 score (same softs, WE, etc., obviously).

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby Miracle » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:16 pm

ClaytonR wrote:History/Mathematics Major

3.05 GPA (gradual rise), 168 LSAT (considered re-taking but I practiced in the 169-171 range after taking the real thing so looks like I reached my ceiling)

LORs: I'd feel comfortable asking two work supervisors and one professor at my school (a solid name for what it's worth but not in the field of law)

Softs: >100 volunteering hours freshman-senior years (each year), student government judicial review board, community service coordinator for on-campus organization, president of student club

Work Experience: part-time experience sophomore-senior years; full-time WE summers between soph.-junior & junior-senior years; two years AmeriCorps VISTA legal aid (fee waivers for the win!)

Chances at:
Michigan (ED)-ED 172+ IN
Virginia (ED) oos ED 172+ IN
Cornell-50/50
Northwestern-ED IN
GULC (ED)-ED IN
George Washington-IN
Fordham-IN
WUSTL-IN
BU-IN
Illinois-IN
BC-IN

Anywhere I'm missing?

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby ClaytonR » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:27 pm

Miracle wrote:
ClaytonR wrote:History/Mathematics Major

3.05 GPA (gradual rise), 168 LSAT (considered re-taking but I practiced in the 169-171 range after taking the real thing so looks like I reached my ceiling)

LORs: I'd feel comfortable asking two work supervisors and one professor at my school (a solid name for what it's worth but not in the field of law)

Softs: >100 volunteering hours freshman-senior years (each year), student government judicial review board, community service coordinator for on-campus organization, president of student club

Work Experience: part-time experience sophomore-senior years; full-time WE summers between soph.-junior & junior-senior years; two years AmeriCorps VISTA legal aid (fee waivers for the win!)

Chances at:
Michigan (ED)-ED 172+ IN
Virginia (ED) oos ED 172+ IN
Cornell-50/50
Northwestern-ED IN
GULC (ED)-ED IN
George Washington-IN
Fordham-IN
WUSTL-IN
BU-IN
Illinois-IN
BC-IN

Anywhere I'm missing?


Thanks Miracle. I feel like that's a bit optimistic though.

Are there other schools where I have a 50/50+ shot at with a 170?

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby paulinaporizkova » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:31 pm

ClaytonR wrote:
Miracle wrote:
ClaytonR wrote:History/Mathematics Major

3.05 GPA (gradual rise), 168 LSAT (considered re-taking but I practiced in the 169-171 range after taking the real thing so looks like I reached my ceiling)

LORs: I'd feel comfortable asking two work supervisors and one professor at my school (a solid name for what it's worth but not in the field of law)

Softs: >100 volunteering hours freshman-senior years (each year), student government judicial review board, community service coordinator for on-campus organization, president of student club

Work Experience: part-time experience sophomore-senior years; full-time WE summers between soph.-junior & junior-senior years; two years AmeriCorps VISTA legal aid (fee waivers for the win!)

Chances at:
Michigan (ED)-ED 172+ IN
Virginia (ED) oos ED 172+ IN
Cornell-50/50
Northwestern-ED IN
GULC (ED)-ED IN
George Washington-IN
Fordham-IN
WUSTL-IN
BU-IN
Illinois-IN
BC-IN

Anywhere I'm missing?


Thanks Miracle. I feel like that's a bit optimistic though.

Are there other schools where I have a 50/50+ shot at with a 170?


any t7-t14 with an ED i'd say is 50/50 at least.....with the exception of berkeley

maybe...

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby Miracle » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:34 pm

ClaytonR wrote:
Miracle wrote:
ClaytonR wrote:History/Mathematics Major

3.05 GPA (gradual rise), 168 LSAT (considered re-taking but I practiced in the 169-171 range after taking the real thing so looks like I reached my ceiling)

LORs: I'd feel comfortable asking two work supervisors and one professor at my school (a solid name for what it's worth but not in the field of law)

Softs: >100 volunteering hours freshman-senior years (each year), student government judicial review board, community service coordinator for on-campus organization, president of student club

Work Experience: part-time experience sophomore-senior years; full-time WE summers between soph.-junior & junior-senior years; two years AmeriCorps VISTA legal aid (fee waivers for the win!)

Chances at:
Michigan (ED)-ED 172+ IN
Virginia (ED) oos ED 172+ IN
Cornell-50/50
Northwestern-ED IN
GULC (ED)-ED IN
George Washington-IN
Fordham-IN
WUSTL-IN
BU-IN
Illinois-IN
BC-IN

Anywhere I'm missing?


Thanks Miracle. I feel like that's a bit optimistic though.

Are there other schools where I have a 50/50+ shot at with a 170?


Where are you going to ED. For Michigan you might need 174-175 and ED

Virginia- you need to have 170+ LSAT from what I've heard from TLS

GW, Fordham, WUSTL, BU, Illinois, BC-lock! Have a good time!

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby ClaytonR » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:34 pm

paulinaporizkova wrote:
ClaytonR wrote:
Miracle wrote:
ClaytonR wrote:History/Mathematics Major

3.05 GPA (gradual rise), 168 LSAT (considered re-taking but I practiced in the 169-171 range after taking the real thing so looks like I reached my ceiling)

LORs: I'd feel comfortable asking two work supervisors and one professor at my school (a solid name for what it's worth but not in the field of law)

Softs: >100 volunteering hours freshman-senior years (each year), student government judicial review board, community service coordinator for on-campus organization, president of student club

Work Experience: part-time experience sophomore-senior years; full-time WE summers between soph.-junior & junior-senior years; two years AmeriCorps VISTA legal aid (fee waivers for the win!)

Chances at:
Michigan (ED)-ED 172+ IN
Virginia (ED) oos ED 172+ IN
Cornell-50/50
Northwestern-ED IN
GULC (ED)-ED IN
George Washington-IN
Fordham-IN
WUSTL-IN
BU-IN
Illinois-IN
BC-IN

Anywhere I'm missing?


Thanks Miracle. I feel like that's a bit optimistic though.

Are there other schools where I have a 50/50+ shot at with a 170?


any t7-t14 with an ED i'd say is 50/50 at least.....with the exception of berkeley

maybe...


Hey you, "maybe..."?

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Re: Chances at t14-20 (3.05, 168, WE)? Fall 2011 Cycle

Postby ClaytonR » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:37 pm

Miracle wrote:
ClaytonR wrote:
Miracle wrote:
ClaytonR wrote:History/Mathematics Major

3.05 GPA (gradual rise), 168 LSAT (considered re-taking but I practiced in the 169-171 range after taking the real thing so looks like I reached my ceiling)

LORs: I'd feel comfortable asking two work supervisors and one professor at my school (a solid name for what it's worth but not in the field of law)

Softs: >100 volunteering hours freshman-senior years (each year), student government judicial review board, community service coordinator for on-campus organization, president of student club

Work Experience: part-time experience sophomore-senior years; full-time WE summers between soph.-junior & junior-senior years; two years AmeriCorps VISTA legal aid (fee waivers for the win!)

Chances at:
Michigan (ED)-ED 172+ IN
Virginia (ED) oos ED 172+ IN
Cornell-50/50
Northwestern-ED IN
GULC (ED)-ED IN
George Washington-IN
Fordham-IN
WUSTL-IN
BU-IN
Illinois-IN
BC-IN

Anywhere I'm missing?


Thanks Miracle. I feel like that's a bit optimistic though.

Are there other schools where I have a 50/50+ shot at with a 170?


Where are you going to ED. For Michigan you might need 174-175 and ED

Virginia- you need to have 170+ LSAT from what I've heard from TLS

GW, Fordham, WUSTL, BU, Illinois, BC-lock! Have a good time!


ED to UVa first, obviously.

Then GULC. After that? Regular decision to all schools (Cornell EA?). Not sure when Georgetown ED responds but Michigan ED whenever I hear back from G'town.

Ok...how about this...chances at $$ outside the t-14?




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