Chances at T5?

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almightypush
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Re: Chances at T5?

Postby almightypush » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:21 pm

Patriot1208 wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:Duke UG is pretty close to as good as Penn (not Wharton) and Columbia. It's not as wide of a separation as there is between CLS and Duke Law, that's for sure.

Lol, no it's not.


Actually, it really is. Yet another person blinded by the Ivy League designation. The Ivy League is an athletic conference. Why is Duke not as good because they are in the ACC?

No, if you look at my post history I actually made an argument against the ivy league distinction. But duke just isn't as good as penn or other non ivy privates. Uchicago, stanford, even NU are a step above the level of duke, nd, emory, rice, etc. outside a few select areas in the south duke is just considered a good school, nothing great.


i'm with you on Stanford and Penn, but you lost me at UChi and NU... no way are they 'a step above' Duke. nor should Duke be lumped together with ND, Emory, Rice, etc. they're not peer institutions by any stretch of the imagination.

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Re: Chances at T5?

Postby bdubs » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:25 pm

I seriously wish there was a way to untag threads.... This is not a forum for debating undergrad prestige, primarily because basically everyone on here acknowledges that it has almost nothing to do with admissions unless you went to HYPS.

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Re: Chances at T5?

Postby Patriot1208 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:43 pm

The only people who think duke is anywhere near uchicago went duke, the admission standards, rigor, and scholarly reputation are divided by a large chasm.
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Re: Chances at T5?

Postby ndirish2010 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:54 pm

I went to Notre Dame, and Duke is not a peer to us. I consider them a step above.

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Re: Chances at T5?

Postby dissonance1848 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:02 pm

What part of finance? If its banking, like Goldman Sachs, then fuck law school, stay with finance, get the MBA, and make way more money, with far greater certainty, and more prestige. Same for hedge fund, private equity, etc.

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Re: Chances at T5?

Postby Patriot1208 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:05 pm

ndirish2010 wrote:I went to Notre Dame, and Duke is not a peer to us. I consider them a step above.


Ya, that might have been too generous to you Notre Dame people :wink:

Anyways, back on topic.

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Re: Chances at T5?

Postby lawyerwannabe » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:47 pm

Since we rely on US news for our law school rankings, let's settle this undergrad debate with their undergrad rankings (just national universities though; liberal art colleges not included):

1) Harvard
2) Princeton
3) Yale
4) Columbia
5) Stanford
5) UPenn
7) Caltech
7) MIT
9) Dartmouth
9) Duke
9) Chicago
12) Northwestern
13) John Hopkins
13) WUSTL
15) Brown
15) Cornell

Columbia scored 93. Upenn scored 92. Duke and Chicago scored 90. Northwestern scored 89.

4 - 12 on this list are peers. After 12 there is a pretty big dropoff score wise.

HYP 98, 99, 100. They are head and shoulders above the rest.

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Re: Chances at T5?

Postby Patriot1208 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:57 pm

lawyerwannabe wrote:Since we rely on US news for our law school rankings, let's settle this undergrad debate with their undergrad rankings (just national universities though; liberal art colleges not included):

1) Harvard
2) Princeton
3) Yale
4) Columbia
5) Stanford
5) UPenn
7) Caltech
7) MIT
9) Dartmouth
9) Duke
9) Chicago
12) Northwestern
13) John Hopkins
13) WUSTL
15) Brown
15) Cornell

Columbia scored 93. Upenn scored 92. Duke and Chicago scored 90. Northwestern scored 89.

4 - 12 on this list are peers. After 12 there is a pretty big dropoff score wise.

HYP 98, 99, 100. They are head and shoulders above the rest.



You'll find very few people here who think that individual US news rankings matter for undergrad.

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Re: Chances at T5?

Postby MrKappus » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:47 am

lawschoolbound11 wrote:Dartmouth accepts like 20% of candidates.


Haha maybe in 1980.




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