2.74/161/Softs (WE and Grad School)

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2.74/161/Softs (WE and Grad School)

Postby gregthomas77 » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:54 pm

UGPA: 2.74
LSAT: 161
Softs: (a) Masters Degree plus 30 grad hours in COMM and 15 grad hours in Ed Leadership
(b)5 years WE (College Prof and Debate Coach)

Applied to:

South Texas
Cooley
Loyola New Orleans
Oklahoma City
Mississippi College
Louisville
Oklahoma
Northwestern
LSU
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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby gregthomas77 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:06 am

bump?

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby stintez » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:13 am

Cooley with a 161 are fing kidding me? Out of all the schools you could apply to that list is the best you got? I mean no offense but wtf you could get in those schools with that gpa and a 151. (well almost all those schools)

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby TommyK » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:17 am

with those stats, you're probably in at the majority of TTT or TTTT schools. I don't think those are reaches at all.

A "reach" with your stats would be Miami or Indiana University - Bloomington

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby gregthomas77 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:24 am

I wasn't saying these are reaches. I am looking for two reaches.

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby stintez » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:29 am

st. louis university not a reach really but hey... Bama...UF...Utah...pep dine.....fsu...ohio state... im not really sure what part of the country you want so it is making it hard to tell you.

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby TommyK » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:32 am

gregthomas77 wrote:I wasn't saying these are reaches. I am looking for two reaches.


well, shit. I suck at reading comprehension. sorry.

Your goegraphy is all over the place - TX, MI, LA, OK, MS... I'm just going to assume geography is not a huge concern and you're open to practicing anywhere.

How about Louisiana State and New Mexico?

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby gregthomas77 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:55 am

TommyK wrote:
gregthomas77 wrote:I wasn't saying these are reaches. I am looking for two reaches.


well, shit. I suck at reading comprehension. sorry.

Your goegraphy is all over the place - TX, MI, LA, OK, MS... I'm just going to assume geography is not a huge concern and you're open to practicing anywhere.

How about Louisiana State and New Mexico?


geography is not a huge concern, no.

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby stintez » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:08 am

case western, fordham, cordozzzzie, colorado, notre dame- your not going to get in but might as well.. lsu, university of cincinnati, american,

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby gregthomas77 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:28 am

stintez wrote:case western, fordham, cordozzzzie, colorado, notre dame- your not going to get in but might as well.. lsu, university of cincinnati, american,


If I am pretty certain I won't get in, that would be a waste right? I mean, there is a difference between a reach and burning money.

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby stintez » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:30 am

gregthomas77 wrote:
stintez wrote:case western, fordham, cordozzzzie, colorado, notre dame- your not going to get in but might as well.. lsu, university of cincinnati, american,


If I am pretty certain I won't get in, that would be a waste right? I mean, there is a difference between a reach and burning money.

the only school on the list you wont get in more than likely is ND all the rest you have a really good shot at and moreover you may get some scholly money.

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby nativedelta » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:52 am

I actually think you could set your sights much higher.

I had a 2.79 GPA and a 162 LSAT in 2008, and I got into American University and Catholic University with a scholarship. I transferred from Catholic to George Mason where I'm finishing my 3L year now.

So with a GPA and LSAT similar to yours I was looking at only 1st and 2nd tier schools. You don't need to go to Mississippi College--a 4th tier school. At least try for Ole Miss which is prestigious in the deep south, has lots of professional connections, and is 3rd tier. (Disclaimer: I'm from Mississippi, so I have some ties to Ole Miss)

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby gregthomas77 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:10 am

OK, new list for chances (this is my reach list, you guys have inspired me to apply more places):

Louisville
Villanova
Syracuse
Rutgers-Newark
Seton Hall

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:15 am

The difficulty in your request is that your information shared is limited to your numbers.

Consider Cincinnati, Univ. of San Diego, part-time at SMU, Pittsburgh, Indiana-Indianapolis, Nebraska, William Mitchell & Case Western Reserve. A really solid & improving law school is Florida State (FSU) but this may be a bit too much of a reach for an out-of-state student.

P.S. Examine the 2009-2010 graph for FSU at lawschoolnumbers.com Apparently 161 is the golden number regardless of GPA.
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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby gregthomas77 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:23 am

CanadianWolf wrote:The difficulty in your request is that your information shared is limited to your numbers.

Consider Cincinnati, Univ. of San Diego, part-time at SMU, Pittsburgh, Indiana-Indianapolis, Nebraska, William Mitchell & Case Western Reserve. A really solid & improving law school is Florida State (FSU) but this may be a bit too much of a reach for an out-of-state student.


What other information do you need? I have a masters degree (plus another 45 hours of graduate work beyond that), my cumulative graduate gpa is 3.6, I have been working full time as a professor and debate coach for five years.

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:27 am

That's pretty important information because it shows significant maturation since your 2.74 GPA years & debate is a valuable skill in the legal world for those pursuing litigation/trial work as well as for law school moot court.

In what discipline is your masters degree ?

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby gregthomas77 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:33 am

CanadianWolf wrote:That's pretty important information because it shows significant maturation since your 2.74 GPA years & debate is a valuable skill in the legal world for those pursuing litigation/trial work as well as for law school moot court.

In what discipline is your masters degree ?


Liberal Studies (with a concentration in Criminal Justice), but the additional graduate hours are all in Communication, which is what I teach.

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby Stonewall » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:33 am

Syracuse if an only if you love snow, and I stress love because they've already gotten over 100 inches this year

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:45 am

Even #26 Iowa may be a reasonable reach--although any higher ranked law school may be unreasonable without an application fee waiver. The key is to get a serious reading of your application which leads to the necessity of putting together a convincing package showing your writing & analytical reasoning ability, work ethic & maturity, reasons for pursuing a career as an attorney, public speaking skills & indications of leadership.

The next key is to get accepted with some merit scholarship money. Indiana, Iowa, Texas Tech, Alabama, Wake Forest, Baylor & a host of tier two schools need to be considered (although merit money is most likely to be offered by tier two or lower schools). Email each school & ask for an application fee waiver.

Although the conventional wisdom on TLS is that graduate degrees don't help much, once one applies outside of the top 22 or so law schools, it may be a significant factor if presented in a convincing manner.

Don't sell yourself short.
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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby stintez » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:46 am

for the love of christ.. Cuse is not a reach neither sry is louisville, you need to apply to one real reach school. As in reach they wont give you money and might get waitlisted.

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby gregthomas77 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:15 pm

stintez wrote:for the love of christ.. Cuse is not a reach neither sry is louisville, you need to apply to one real reach school. As in reach they wont give you money and might get waitlisted.


I guess my understanding of what is and isn't a reach isn't that great.

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:22 pm

That is not uncommon. To many, a reach school is one where the applicant is below both medians, although various definitions are derived from specific situations. Also, the last few years saw a significant rise in law school applications whereas this year law applications are down over 12% thus calling into question the most recent guidelines for law school admissions.

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby gregthomas77 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:50 pm

Applied to Louisville.

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Re: 2.74, 161, chance me and help me pick two late reaches.

Postby SupraVln180 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:24 pm

In addition to what everyone said, I would shoot an app to UIUC and Indiana-Bloomington. Midwest schools seem to be a little more holistic.

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Re: 2.74, 161 and softs - Chance Me!

Postby gregthomas77 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:30 pm

Added Oklahoma and Arkansas-Fayetteville to the list of schools I am applying to.




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