Can I crack the T14?

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby Shooter » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:24 pm

orangebluewhitered wrote:I definitely feel that- I went to a relatively low-ranked school and did well by being, essentially, scrappy.


Word. I'm scrappy as hell, too. Probably won't help us much in law school... but I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby orangebluewhitered » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:35 pm

It'll help in practice though, right? I hopethink yes.

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby Shooter » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:36 pm

orangebluewhitered wrote:It'll help in practice though, right? I hopethink yes.


Lol, it better!

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby Patriot1208 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:15 pm

Shooter wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:
Shooter wrote:Can I just add one thing?

Everyone (including myself) keeps saying stuff like "You'll probably not get in anywhere... except, of course, Cornell."

Well I was just over this guy's house the other day, and he was a federal prosecutor who went to Cornell (turned down G'Town and Columbia I believe). Let me just say, this guy was LOADED. Cornell can = great success if you do it right.


u mad?

Also, if he was a federal prosecutor and loaded, the money came from something besides his job. Note: loaded to me = very rich, not just making a good salary. Lastly, a good amount of people from Cornell will be very successful, it's just the easiest t14 to get into, by far.


Lol, no I'm not mad. It was just an anecdote that I felt was relevant and obviously I have nowhere else to tell this story. Btw, the guy worked in a firm before switching over to the public sector, and his current salary is pretty high - a lot higher than I thought it would be, even for government work.


Federal government work can pay very well. My boss (a GS-14) makes somewhere close to 150k with bonus and my bosses boss (a GS-15) makes close to 200k.

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby orangebluewhitered » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:50 pm

Is that in the DoJ?

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby Patriot1208 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:56 pm

orangebluewhitered wrote:Is that in the DoJ?


Yup, but not in an USAO (meaning, not lawyers). But, the GS pay scale is uniform. What differs is things like overtime, locality pay, danger pay (lawyers obviously don't get this), and bonuses. Also, GS-15 is the highest grade. To get beyond that in the DOJ you have to get an SES position which is, technically, a presidential appointment.

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby mrmangs » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:00 pm

Patriot1208 wrote:
orangebluewhitered wrote:Is that in the DoJ?


Yup, but not in an USAO (meaning, not lawyers). But, the GS pay scale is uniform. What differs is things like overtime, locality pay, danger pay (lawyers obviously don't get this), and bonuses. Also, GS-15 is the highest grade. To get beyond that in the DOJ you have to get an SES position which is, technically, a presidential appointment.


So what exactly does he do?

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby Patriot1208 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:16 pm

mrmangs wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:
orangebluewhitered wrote:Is that in the DoJ?


Yup, but not in an USAO (meaning, not lawyers). But, the GS pay scale is uniform. What differs is things like overtime, locality pay, danger pay (lawyers obviously don't get this), and bonuses. Also, GS-15 is the highest grade. To get beyond that in the DOJ you have to get an SES position which is, technically, a presidential appointment.


So what exactly does he do?

I rather not out myself anymore than I have, but, the point is that pay across the DOJ is fairly uniform and you can make a very solid living later in a career working for the DOJ.

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby quakeroats » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:15 pm

Patriot1208 wrote:the point is that pay across the DOJ is fairly uniform and you can make a very solid living later in a career working for the DOJ.


When you cash out for a biglaw partnership?

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby Patriot1208 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:01 pm

quakeroats wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:the point is that pay across the DOJ is fairly uniform and you can make a very solid living later in a career working for the DOJ.


When you cash out for a biglaw partnership?

Lol sure but 150k government job that is interesting sounds pretty sweet to me

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby gdane » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:03 pm

You guys can just take a look at this chart. It'll give you specific numbers.

http://www.justice.gov/oarm/arm/hp/hpsalary.htm

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby Patriot1208 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:16 pm

gdane5 wrote:You guys can just take a look at this chart. It'll give you specific numbers.

http://www.justice.gov/oarm/arm/hp/hpsalary.htm

Well that is misleading. For most doj jobs your salary is a good bit higher then that due to guaranteed overtime that is automatically given to you and the differing of locality pay. Not to mention if you were to get a hardship position overseas that also adds plus it doesn't include bonuses. So, for most doj jobs you make a good amount more than the listed gs number

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby usonesinbetween » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:00 am

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby quakeroats » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:21 am

usonesinbetween wrote:I have a similar question about softs. Besides Rhodes, Marshall, Olympic athlete, discovering a planet, what do people think are game-changing or solid softs? Working in Congress? Testifying before Congress? Peer-reviewed publications? Founding an organization? Fill in the blank... I checked past forums and it seems a Fulbright is a good soft, depending on what kind of Fulbright. Anyhow, any insight would be appreciated! :)


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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby FiveSermon » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:08 am

usonesinbetween wrote:I have a similar question about softs. Besides Rhodes, Marshall, Olympic athlete, discovering a planet, what do people think are game-changing or solid softs? Working in Congress? Testifying before Congress? Peer-reviewed publications? Founding an organization? Fill in the blank... I checked past forums and it seems a Fulbright is a good soft, depending on what kind of Fulbright. Anyhow, any insight would be appreciated! :)


There is a big difference between "game breaking" and "solid". Most of what you mentioned would belong in "game breaking".

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby buckilaw » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:36 am

It's certainly possible, though the odds are stacked against you. Creating an excellent admissions "package" will help. Retake the LSAT and apply early next cycle, it's worth the wait.

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Re: Can I crack the T14?

Postby sojasoph » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:12 am

cornell, Georgetown, michigan, ucla, usc, vandy, ut are possibilites you willprobably get one. They are all good schools. good luck.




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