3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here? Forum

[law4vus]

So my stats are 3.27, 162 (had a sickness in the family a few weeks before I took the test so I had a lot of trouble focusing), retook and got a 167. Non-URM.

I have a consistent upward GPA trend and the 3.27 also includes courses I took at a prestigious university when I was in high school through a summer program, which brought down my GPA slightly. I also have pretty good softs, with a couple internships focused on my area of interest (sports law) and a Congressional Internship. I was also a teaching assistant for a few semesters for a course within my major, along with being an active member of a couple student organizations.

My letters came from:

- the person I TAed for (excellent letter)
- a teacher who took the time to ask me questions for an hour before writing the letter
- a staffer from the Congressman's office

The best school I got into so far was Washington and Lee. I also had a group interview at Georgetown last night but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be waitlisted at best. I also applied to WUSTL, Illinois, Emory, BU, BC, GW, William and Mary, Fordham, along with some other safeties. Got WLed at Illinois this morning.

My question is, am I shooting too high hoping to get into at least a couple of those schools I listed?

Thanks, guys!

[law4vus]

Can anyone help me out here? Also have a quick question on Emory - LSP gives me a weak consider but that goes contrary to what LSN has for last year's data. Am I a pretty good shot for Emory or is it weak?

[Shooter]

Dude, Emory will do almost anything (probably not sexual, but maybe) to get your LSAT score. I'd say your chances are quite good (although not auto-admit).

[Grizz]

Can anyone help me out here? Also have a quick question on Emory - LSP gives me a weak consider but that goes contrary to what LSN has for last year's data. Am I a pretty good shot for Emory or is it weak?

Good for Emory, WUSTL, UIUC

No go on BC, BU, W&M, GW. GPA too low.

Fordham is a smaaaaaaaaallll shot.

[law4vus]

Dude, Emory will do almost anything (probably not sexual, but maybe) to get your LSAT score. I'd say your chances are quite good (although not auto-admit).

Haha, thanks for making me laugh. Really, though? It's at their 75th percentile, so I wouldn't think they'd be THAT crazy about it.

[2011Law]

BC and W&M you're in. Illinois I think you're in, and the rest are kinda a coin toss I think. Only have slightly higher stats (3.37/168) and I'm applying to the same schools as targets.

[law4vus]

Can anyone help me out here? Also have a quick question on Emory - LSP gives me a weak consider but that goes contrary to what LSN has for last year's data. Am I a pretty good shot for Emory or is it weak?

Good for Emory, WUSTL, UIUC

No go on BC, BU, W&M, GW. GPA too low.

Fordham is a smaaaaaaaaallll shot.

Already got WL at UIUC. Not looking good.

[2011Law]

Can anyone help me out here? Also have a quick question on Emory - LSP gives me a weak consider but that goes contrary to what LSN has for last year's data. Am I a pretty good shot for Emory or is it weak?

Good for Emory, WUSTL, UIUC

No go on BC, BU, W&M, GW. GPA too low.

Fordham is a smaaaaaaaaallll shot.

You really don't think he'd get into BC?

[law4vus]

Can anyone help me out here? Also have a quick question on Emory - LSP gives me a weak consider but that goes contrary to what LSN has for last year's data. Am I a pretty good shot for Emory or is it weak?

Good for Emory, WUSTL, UIUC

No go on BC, BU, W&M, GW. GPA too low.

Fordham is a smaaaaaaaaallll shot.

You really don't think he'd get into BC?

Yeah, it's really unclear to me right now. Someone got in with a 3.31 167 on LSN (which is my GPA if you don't include my high school summer program) but they also went to a top 10 private school. Mine isn't so good. Not bad, but not so good.

[Shooter]

Dude, Emory will do almost anything (probably not sexual, but maybe) to get your LSAT score. I'd say your chances are quite good (although not auto-admit).

Haha, thanks for making me laugh. Really, though? It's at their 75th percentile, so I wouldn't think they'd be THAT crazy about it.

All I know is that LSN shows them going NUTS for people with 166+. I mean your GPA is low, but these schools usually have no problem finding high GPAs. I think if you are willing to ride the WL, all of the schools you listed are possible.

[law4vus]

Dude, Emory will do almost anything (probably not sexual, but maybe) to get your LSAT score. I'd say your chances are quite good (although not auto-admit).

Haha, thanks for making me laugh. Really, though? It's at their 75th percentile, so I wouldn't think they'd be THAT crazy about it.

All I know is that LSN shows them going NUTS for people with 166+. I mean your GPA is low, but these schools usually have no problem finding high GPAs. I think if you are willing to ride the WL, all of the schools you listed are possible.

Yeah, obviously WL isn't what I'd like but with the grades, I figured that's what would happen. Thanks for the help!

[jwrash]

anyone with a 166+ who can breathe is in at Emory

[law4vus]

anyone with a 166+ who can breathe is in at Emory

Good to know, lol. I guess I'll be on the lookout for WUSTL and Emory. The others I'll prob be dinged/WL.

[Grizz]

Can anyone help me out here? Also have a quick question on Emory - LSP gives me a weak consider but that goes contrary to what LSN has for last year's data. Am I a pretty good shot for Emory or is it weak?

Good for Emory, WUSTL, UIUC

No go on BC, BU, W&M, GW. GPA too low.

Fordham is a smaaaaaaaaallll shot.

You really don't think he'd get into BC?

Eh maybe. GPA is low.

[patrickd139]

Does OP have a 167 (title) or 162 (OP)?

[Patriot1208]

Does OP have a 167 (title) or 162 (OP)?

It's misleading, but read the first sentence, the 167 is a retake of the 162.

[law4vus]

Yes, the 167 is a retake of 162. Got the old score a couple weeks after my sister was diagnosed with leukemia.

[law4vus]

Also, does anyone think I should apply anywhere else in the 20-40 range or have I covered it well enough? Already in at W and L and Maryland.

[TyrodTaylor]

You are in at W&M with money. My LSAT is the same as yours and my GPA is a little lower and I ahve gotten some pretty strong advice from Current WM law students that I should expect money from them. I talked to a guy at admissions the other day and I first mentioned my GPA, and then I mentioned my LSAT and his tone changed very quickly, he was interested.

[snapdragon]

The best school I got into so far was Washington and Lee. I also had a group interview at Georgetown last night but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be waitlisted at best. I also applied to WUSTL, Illinois, Emory, BU, BC, GW, William and Mary, Fordham, along with some other safeties. Got WLed at Illinois this morning.

My question is, am I shooting too high hoping to get into at least a couple of those schools I listed?

Thanks, guys!

I have pretty close numbers to you so I figured I'd give you my results thus far - I think you may get into 1 or 2 of those schools but certainly not all. I was WLed at UIUC and Fordham (PT), rejected from BC, didn't even bother with BU. I'm pending at W&M but since I submitted ages ago, I'm thinking that's a WL/denial (someone with my exact numbers did get in + $, but they were in-state which may make a difference. Or I just may come off as dreadful and smelly in my app). W&M does NOT seem to be a lock for these numbers, not by a long shot. I'm pending PT at GULC and GW, expecting a denial from GULC and WL from GW. I'm also pending at WUSTL. No clue what to expect there.

I don't mean to sound grim, these are just my experiences. I'm also in at W&L and a handful of other schools at this point. I think you will get into 1-2 of those schools but I really wouldn't anticipate getting into a lot of them. I hope for your sake that I'm wrong, but this what the trend seems to be for me and others in the lower GPA / 167 range. Best of luck to you.