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3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby law4vus » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:16 pm

So my stats are 3.27, 162 (had a sickness in the family a few weeks before I took the test so I had a lot of trouble focusing), retook and got a 167. Non-URM.

I have a consistent upward GPA trend and the 3.27 also includes courses I took at a prestigious university when I was in high school through a summer program, which brought down my GPA slightly. I also have pretty good softs, with a couple internships focused on my area of interest (sports law) and a Congressional Internship. I was also a teaching assistant for a few semesters for a course within my major, along with being an active member of a couple student organizations.

My letters came from:

- the person I TAed for (excellent letter)
- a teacher who took the time to ask me questions for an hour before writing the letter
- a staffer from the Congressman's office

The best school I got into so far was Washington and Lee. I also had a group interview at Georgetown last night but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be waitlisted at best. I also applied to WUSTL, Illinois, Emory, BU, BC, GW, William and Mary, Fordham, along with some other safeties. Got WLed at Illinois this morning.

My question is, am I shooting too high hoping to get into at least a couple of those schools I listed?

Thanks, guys!

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby law4vus » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:45 pm

Can anyone help me out here? Also have a quick question on Emory - LSP gives me a weak consider but that goes contrary to what LSN has for last year's data. Am I a pretty good shot for Emory or is it weak?

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby Shooter » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:48 pm

Dude, Emory will do almost anything (probably not sexual, but maybe) to get your LSAT score. I'd say your chances are quite good (although not auto-admit).

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby Grizz » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:50 pm

law4vus wrote:Can anyone help me out here? Also have a quick question on Emory - LSP gives me a weak consider but that goes contrary to what LSN has for last year's data. Am I a pretty good shot for Emory or is it weak?


Good for Emory, WUSTL, UIUC

No go on BC, BU, W&M, GW. GPA too low.

Fordham is a smaaaaaaaaallll shot.

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby law4vus » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:51 pm

Shooter wrote:Dude, Emory will do almost anything (probably not sexual, but maybe) to get your LSAT score. I'd say your chances are quite good (although not auto-admit).


Haha, thanks for making me laugh. Really, though? It's at their 75th percentile, so I wouldn't think they'd be THAT crazy about it.

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby 2011Law » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:51 pm

BC and W&M you're in. Illinois I think you're in, and the rest are kinda a coin toss I think. Only have slightly higher stats (3.37/168) and I'm applying to the same schools as targets.

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby law4vus » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:51 pm

rad law wrote:
law4vus wrote:Can anyone help me out here? Also have a quick question on Emory - LSP gives me a weak consider but that goes contrary to what LSN has for last year's data. Am I a pretty good shot for Emory or is it weak?


Good for Emory, WUSTL, UIUC

No go on BC, BU, W&M, GW. GPA too low.

Fordham is a smaaaaaaaaallll shot.


Already got WL at UIUC. Not looking good. :(

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby 2011Law » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:52 pm

rad law wrote:
law4vus wrote:Can anyone help me out here? Also have a quick question on Emory - LSP gives me a weak consider but that goes contrary to what LSN has for last year's data. Am I a pretty good shot for Emory or is it weak?


Good for Emory, WUSTL, UIUC

No go on BC, BU, W&M, GW. GPA too low.

Fordham is a smaaaaaaaaallll shot.


You really don't think he'd get into BC?

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby law4vus » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:58 pm

2011Law wrote:
rad law wrote:
law4vus wrote:Can anyone help me out here? Also have a quick question on Emory - LSP gives me a weak consider but that goes contrary to what LSN has for last year's data. Am I a pretty good shot for Emory or is it weak?


Good for Emory, WUSTL, UIUC

No go on BC, BU, W&M, GW. GPA too low.

Fordham is a smaaaaaaaaallll shot.


You really don't think he'd get into BC?


Yeah, it's really unclear to me right now. Someone got in with a 3.31 167 on LSN (which is my GPA if you don't include my high school summer program) but they also went to a top 10 private school. Mine isn't so good. Not bad, but not so good.

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby Shooter » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:00 am

law4vus wrote:
Shooter wrote:Dude, Emory will do almost anything (probably not sexual, but maybe) to get your LSAT score. I'd say your chances are quite good (although not auto-admit).


Haha, thanks for making me laugh. Really, though? It's at their 75th percentile, so I wouldn't think they'd be THAT crazy about it.


All I know is that LSN shows them going NUTS for people with 166+. I mean your GPA is low, but these schools usually have no problem finding high GPAs. I think if you are willing to ride the WL, all of the schools you listed are possible.

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby law4vus » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:05 am

Shooter wrote:
law4vus wrote:
Shooter wrote:Dude, Emory will do almost anything (probably not sexual, but maybe) to get your LSAT score. I'd say your chances are quite good (although not auto-admit).


Haha, thanks for making me laugh. Really, though? It's at their 75th percentile, so I wouldn't think they'd be THAT crazy about it.


All I know is that LSN shows them going NUTS for people with 166+. I mean your GPA is low, but these schools usually have no problem finding high GPAs. I think if you are willing to ride the WL, all of the schools you listed are possible.


Yeah, obviously WL isn't what I'd like but with the grades, I figured that's what would happen. Thanks for the help!

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby jwrash » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:00 am

anyone with a 166+ who can breathe is in at Emory

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Postby law4vus » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:53 pm

jwrash wrote:anyone with a 166+ who can breathe is in at Emory


Good to know, lol. I guess I'll be on the lookout for WUSTL and Emory. The others I'll prob be dinged/WL.

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby Grizz » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:50 pm

2011Law wrote:
rad law wrote:
law4vus wrote:Can anyone help me out here? Also have a quick question on Emory - LSP gives me a weak consider but that goes contrary to what LSN has for last year's data. Am I a pretty good shot for Emory or is it weak?


Good for Emory, WUSTL, UIUC

No go on BC, BU, W&M, GW. GPA too low.

Fordham is a smaaaaaaaaallll shot.


You really don't think he'd get into BC?


Eh maybe. GPA is low.

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby patrickd139 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:53 pm

Does OP have a 167 (title) or 162 (OP)?

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby Patriot1208 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:06 pm

patrickd139 wrote:Does OP have a 167 (title) or 162 (OP)?


It's misleading, but read the first sentence, the 167 is a retake of the 162.

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby law4vus » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:54 pm

Yes, the 167 is a retake of 162. Got the old score a couple weeks after my sister was diagnosed with leukemia.

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby law4vus » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:45 pm

Also, does anyone think I should apply anywhere else in the 20-40 range or have I covered it well enough? Already in at W and L and Maryland.

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby TyrodTaylor » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:36 am

You are in at W&M with money. My LSAT is the same as yours and my GPA is a little lower and I ahve gotten some pretty strong advice from Current WM law students that I should expect money from them. I talked to a guy at admissions the other day and I first mentioned my GPA, and then I mentioned my LSAT and his tone changed very quickly, he was interested.

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Re: 3.27, 167 - Am I kidding myself here?

Postby snapdragon » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:04 am

law4vus wrote:
The best school I got into so far was Washington and Lee. I also had a group interview at Georgetown last night but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be waitlisted at best. I also applied to WUSTL, Illinois, Emory, BU, BC, GW, William and Mary, Fordham, along with some other safeties. Got WLed at Illinois this morning.

My question is, am I shooting too high hoping to get into at least a couple of those schools I listed?

Thanks, guys!


I have pretty close numbers to you so I figured I'd give you my results thus far - I think you may get into 1 or 2 of those schools but certainly not all. I was WLed at UIUC and Fordham (PT), rejected from BC, didn't even bother with BU. I'm pending at W&M but since I submitted ages ago, I'm thinking that's a WL/denial (someone with my exact numbers did get in + $, but they were in-state which may make a difference. Or I just may come off as dreadful and smelly in my app). W&M does NOT seem to be a lock for these numbers, not by a long shot. I'm pending PT at GULC and GW, expecting a denial from GULC and WL from GW. I'm also pending at WUSTL. No clue what to expect there.

I don't mean to sound grim, these are just my experiences. I'm also in at W&L and a handful of other schools at this point. I think you will get into 1-2 of those schools but I really wouldn't anticipate getting into a lot of them. I hope for your sake that I'm wrong, but this what the trend seems to be for me and others in the lower GPA / 167 range. Best of luck to you.



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