2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

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2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby weaksplittsville » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:43 pm

As the title says, 2.5 gpa with a 165 LSAT. Looking to apply this cycle. The score is from the October administration and am currently waiting on the December score (although not expecting improvement, damn congferences). Am open to practicing in any region of the counrty. What are the best schools I realistically have a chance at gaining admittance too? Will any T-1's bite? And are there any schools in which I could call a "safety" with my horrible gpa? Thanks for the advice...

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby FuManChusco » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:45 pm

your lsat is a little low for most splitter schools. where do you want to work?

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby FuManChusco » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:46 pm

birD wrote:http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/


TINTCR for splitters.

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby weaksplittsville » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:50 pm

I really dont have an geographical preference... although I am from the NW and wouldnt mind staying in the region if I had too. University of Oregon, while not highly ranked, appears to have a 3.0 gpa floor

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby kkklick » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:36 am

Anything below 3.0 lhas a different response from all schools. Some need a high LSAT before they consider you, some won't at all. Go to law school predictor and check out the trends of people with your scores. A 165 is pretty good but the 2.5 will hold you back quite a bit from higher ranked schools.

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby CanadianWolf » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:37 am

Consider getting a couple of years of work experience before applying to law school to show that your work habits have improved since your undergraduate years.

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby dissonance1848 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:06 pm

With a 2.5 GPA, you either need a retake that gets you a 170+, or your chance of graduating with over 150K in debt and no legal employment is over 75%.

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby BrownBears09 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:18 pm

dissonance1848 wrote:With a 2.5 GPA, you either need a retake that gets you a 170+, or your chance of graduating with over 150K in debt and no legal employment is over 75%.


90% of all statistics are exaggerated.

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby dissonance1848 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:37 pm

Well played sir.

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby twert » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:46 pm

with that gpa you will have to decide between full scholarships at the lowest schools, or, pretty much no money anywhere else. You will however get into some t2s with that lsat. t1 maybe. maybe.

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby High_Hopes » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:41 pm

twert wrote:You will however get into some t2s with that lsat. t1 maybe. maybe.


doubtful

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby cowgirl_bebop » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:54 pm

twert wrote:with that gpa you will have to decide between full scholarships at the lowest schools, or, pretty much no money anywhere else. You will however get into some t2s with that lsat. t1 maybe. maybe.


This.

I am in the SAME boat. My LSAC GPA should go up a bit with my fall grades, but I am at about 2.5 with a 167 (pending Dec. retake). I applied to schools from T1 to T3 just to see who would bite. I've gotten into SJU so far with $, but all of my other apps are on hold until December scores come out.

Apparently LSP is not that great for splitters (especially URM splitters), so use it but be cautious. Splitter cycles are always pretty unpredictable. You are not in any way "totally screwed", especially if you have the means to finance an education at a higher-ranked school that will bite but give you no $.

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby anonymiB » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:01 pm

weaksplittsville wrote:As the title says, 2.5 gpa with a 165 LSAT. Looking to apply this cycle. The score is from the October administration and am currently waiting on the December score (although not expecting improvement, damn congferences). Am open to practicing in any region of the counrty. What are the best schools I realistically have a chance at gaining admittance too? Will any T-1's bite? And are there any schools in which I could call a "safety" with my horrible gpa? Thanks for the advice...


Any posts from people who have applied in this situation? Accepted, WL or denied?

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby zakohl » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:18 pm

Most TLS'ers will lie and inflate their GPA above 3.5 and LSAT above 160

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby FuManChusco » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:11 pm

zakohl wrote:Most TLS'ers will lie and inflate their GPA above 3.5 and LSAT above 160


you were able to figure that out in less than a month with 9 posts? What does this have to do with anything anyway?

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby justhockey31 » Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:41 am

Very similar numbers to u (2.7, 167)...IN at American and WL and W&L so far in the tier 1

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby Adjudicator » Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:47 am

justhockey31 wrote:Very similar numbers to u (2.7, 167)...IN at American and WL and W&L so far in the tier 1


In at W&L this cycle with 2.7/167? I got waitlisted with 3.0/175. :|

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby kkklick » Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:40 am

Adjudicator wrote:
justhockey31 wrote:Very similar numbers to u (2.7, 167)...IN at American and WL and W&L so far in the tier 1


In at W&L this cycle with 2.7/167? I got waitlisted with 3.0/175. :|

Wow he must have amazing softs?

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby justhockey31 » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:59 am

kkklick wrote:
Adjudicator wrote:
justhockey31 wrote:Very similar numbers to u (2.7, 167)...IN at American and WL and W&L so far in the tier 1


In at W&L this cycle with 2.7/167? I got waitlisted with 3.0/175. :|

Wow he must have amazing softs?


Sorry, that was poorly written, it was supposed to say "and WL AT W&L"...IN at American, WL at W&L and my softs are nothing special (just normal UG stuff coupled with a decent DA internship). I am just saying for the OP that no, you are not totally screwed as your LSAT is solid. Just make sure your applications highlight your strengths (LSAT, anything you may have done outside of school, etc) while downplaying your GPA. Good Luck!!!

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby hokie » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:07 am

birD wrote:http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/ http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com


Corrected 8)

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby JCougar » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:27 am

FuManChusco wrote:your lsat is a little low for most splitter schools. where do you want to work?


It's not really that low.

Wake Forest, American, and Indiana-Bloomington are all splitter schools that accept pretty much everyone above 163/4. OP may even get a 25% scholly at those schools. There's probably a handful of lower T1 schools that will bite. OP has a very good chance of breaking in somewhere in the T50, but very low chance at the T30.

OP, if you want to work on the East Cost, I really think you should look into Wake Forest and/or American.

Edit: and IU-B doesn't count as the T30 either -- at least not job-wise.

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Re: 2.5 gpa; 165 LSAT... am i totally screwed?

Postby mountaintime » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:26 am

165 is too low for W&L, but you'll have a good shot at GMU, IU-B, maybe Wake, maybe Wisconsin, maybe UGA. LSN is very useful for splitters.




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