lsat  171
gpa 3.8 from top private
think I have a chance at any scholarships from any of the top 14? or should i make use of the massive number of fee waivers received from lower ranked tier 1 law schools?
any guesses, advice, or somewhat relevant thoughts will be appreciated, thanks!
171/3.8  What are my chances at getting $$ from T14?

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171/3.8  What are my chances at getting $$ from T14?
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Re: 171/3.8  What are my chances at getting $$ from T14?
I think you will get dean scholarships at least at many T14's. Do a search on LSN for your number range and see what people got in the past to get an idea. You are certainly stronger than the average applicant so you are likely to get what's reported. I know school like Michigan are consistent with the scholarship amounts.
I wouldn't bother with anything UCLA/UT/Vandy and below. I'd think you will choose lower T14 over them even if you are extremely debt averse. You might actually get more money in the T14.
I wouldn't bother with anything UCLA/UT/Vandy and below. I'd think you will choose lower T14 over them even if you are extremely debt averse. You might actually get more money in the T14.

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Re: 171/3.8  What are my chances at getting $$ from T14?
thanks, r6_philly i hope you are right. I will definitely try to scan LSN to get an idea.
i am surprised that you think i have a better shot at getting money from a lower T14 than a USC or UCLA; but after thinking about it, i guess it does make sense. is it because once an applicant is definitely ahead of the school's medians, they then want you to come to boost their medians (and this is true no matter how far ahead you are of their medians)  coupled with the fact that the t14 has more money to throw at admitted students than t25?
i am surprised that you think i have a better shot at getting money from a lower T14 than a USC or UCLA; but after thinking about it, i guess it does make sense. is it because once an applicant is definitely ahead of the school's medians, they then want you to come to boost their medians (and this is true no matter how far ahead you are of their medians)  coupled with the fact that the t14 has more money to throw at admitted students than t25?

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Re: 171/3.8  What are my chances at getting $$ from T14?
You should get a truckload of money from USC, UCLA & Texas. Maybe r6_Philly was suggesting that Top 14 law schools have bigger trucks.
P.S. Up to $150,000 at Vanderbilt, likely $90,000 at USC & possible $90,000 at UCLA.
P.S. Up to $150,000 at Vanderbilt, likely $90,000 at USC & possible $90,000 at UCLA.
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Re: 171/3.8  What are my chances at getting $$ from T14?
Way too much optimism ITT. LSN results for $ with 3.8x/171:
Columbia 2x 0 (median 0)
Chicago 3x 0, 30, 45 (median 0)
NYU 3x 0 (median 0)
Michigan 0, 54, 68 (median 54)
UVA 3x 0, 75 (median 0)
Penn 3x 0 (median 0)
Berkeley 3x 0 (median 0)
Duke 6x 0, 5x 6080 (median 0)
NU 2x 0 (median 0)
Cornell 2x 0, 120 (median 0)
GULC 7x 0, 36, 68 (median 0)
Vandy 2x 0, 72, 81 (median 36)
UT 4x 84 (median 84)
UCLA 2x 0, 2x 75 (median 38)
USC 2x 0, 75, 90 (median 38)
Columbia 2x 0 (median 0)
Chicago 3x 0, 30, 45 (median 0)
NYU 3x 0 (median 0)
Michigan 0, 54, 68 (median 54)
UVA 3x 0, 75 (median 0)
Penn 3x 0 (median 0)
Berkeley 3x 0 (median 0)
Duke 6x 0, 5x 6080 (median 0)
NU 2x 0 (median 0)
Cornell 2x 0, 120 (median 0)
GULC 7x 0, 36, 68 (median 0)
Vandy 2x 0, 72, 81 (median 36)
UT 4x 84 (median 84)
UCLA 2x 0, 2x 75 (median 38)
USC 2x 0, 75, 90 (median 38)

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Re: 171/3.8  What are my chances at getting $$ from T14?
im_blue wrote:Way too much optimism ITT. LSN results for $ with 3.8x/171:
Columbia 2x 0 (median 0)
Chicago 3x 0, 30, 45 (median 0)
NYU 3x 0 (median 0)
Michigan 0, 54, 68 (median 54)
UVA 3x 0, 75 (median 0)
Penn 3x 0 (median 0)
Berkeley 3x 0 (median 0)
Duke 6x 0, 5x 6080 (median 0)
NU 2x 0 (median 0)
Cornell 2x 0, 120 (median 0)
GULC 7x 0, 36, 68 (median 0)
Vandy 2x 0, 72, 81 (median 36)
UT 4x 84 (median 84)
UCLA 2x 0, 2x 75 (median 38)
USC 2x 0, 75, 90 (median 38)
You are assuming all applicants that don't put $ amount in actually don't receive any. I asked OP to use LSN to check what sort of amount to expect if he is to receive $, not for chances at receiving money. LSN is a horrible place to try to analyze chances for an average applicant because the sample is biased, data integrity is not guaranteed, and it may be technically flawed. I find any web applicant that can't record dates in the right text box to be suspect at best.
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