A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

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peter618
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A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby peter618 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:08 pm

I have a 169 and a 3.93 from UF Civil Engineering. I looked on LSN and lawschoolpredictor, and given my chances applied around the first of November to every school between NYU and WUSTL (inclusive, from the US News rankings) plus BU and ND. I feel I have a decent shot at admission to all these schools, but I'm more curious about money. I know LSN lists scholarship likelihood, but how much is the probability of scholarship and associated scholarship amount affected by the engineering UG?

Basically, where do you think I have a good shot at getting meaningful money, and where do you think I have a good shot at getting a full or close-to-full ride?

Thanks much.

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby lakerfanimal » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:10 pm

I think if you had 2 points on that LSAT you'd get a lot of money from the mid top 14 schools. I think you'd get a good amount at UCLA. If you have work experience, you may get a lot at Northwestern.

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Postby peter618 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:14 pm

lakerfanimal wrote:I think if you had 2 points on that LSAT you'd get a lot of money from the mid top 14 schools. I think you'd get a good amount at UCLA. If you have work experience, you may get a lot at Northwestern.


Yeah I hate my LSAT score...was practicing around 173-175 and absolutely cratered on test day. But it is what it is, and I am never taking it again.

I have work experience during school (3 years of summer internships/co-ops) but no post-UG experience. Also, I think I have a good PS.

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby im_blue » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:25 pm

With your LSAT, it'll be tough to get big money at T14 since most of them have 170+ medians.

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby JazzOne » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:31 pm

Retake.

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Postby peter618 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:42 pm

^I'm not going to retake. I'm also not hell bent on T14. I'm fine with T25.

Also, does the money I could get from schools like Illinois and MN make it worth sending apps their way?

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Postby JazzOne » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:50 pm

peter618 wrote:^I'm not going to retake. I'm also not hell bent on T14. I'm fine with T25.

Also, does the money I could get from schools like Illinois and MN make it worth sending apps their way?

I'd apply to UCLA, UT, and Vandy then. I wouldn't dip down much further than that unless you have some very specific goals and a clear plan.

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby Fast_Fingers » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:28 pm

peter618 wrote:^I'm not going to retake. I'm also not hell bent on T14. I'm fine with T25.

Also, does the money I could get from schools like Illinois and MN make it worth sending apps their way?


Give it a shot. I didn't have your GPA, but your LSAT, and got a 1/3 scholarship from U of I and MN. WUSTL's worth a shot too. Do you have any particular place you want to practice? Keep in mind that going to Chicago or NY will cost a lot more than Champagne, IL or Minneapolis with living costs.

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby eandy » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:17 pm

Um...with your GPA why on earth would you go to LS?

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Postby ralph_pootawn » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:38 am

similar stats/situation. look forward to seeing how this turns out for you. In the mean time florida state is gatorbait.

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Postby IAFG » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:40 am

eandy wrote:Um...with your GPA why on earth would you go to LS?

Civil engineering.

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Postby ResolutePear » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:45 am

IAFG wrote:
eandy wrote:Um...with your GPA why on earth would you go to LS?

Civil engineering.


Patent law?

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Postby IAFG » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:48 am

ResolutePear wrote:
IAFG wrote:
eandy wrote:Um...with your GPA why on earth would you go to LS?

Civil engineering.


Patent law?

I don't think civil engineering is very sought after by IP practices, but I don't know for sure

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby ResolutePear » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:52 am

IAFG wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
IAFG wrote:
eandy wrote:Um...with your GPA why on earth would you go to LS?

Civil engineering.


Patent law?

I don't think civil engineering is very sought after by IP practices, but I don't know for sure


Yeah, I always figured it was more of an EE thing, though I've heard that any engineering major can sit for the patent bar.

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby thegor1987 » Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:00 am

full ride at a T50 for sure, not sure about the T25.

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby Slimpee » Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:16 am

A buddy of mine got $45k total from Mich last cycle w/ a 169/3.8something

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Postby rayiner » Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:41 am

peter618 wrote:
lakerfanimal wrote:I think if you had 2 points on that LSAT you'd get a lot of money from the mid top 14 schools. I think you'd get a good amount at UCLA. If you have work experience, you may get a lot at Northwestern.


Yeah I hate my LSAT score...was practicing around 173-175 and absolutely cratered on test day. But it is what it is, and I am never taking it again.

I have work experience during school (3 years of summer internships/co-ops) but no post-UG experience. Also, I think I have a good PS.


Retake unless you don't want biglaw.

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Postby TLSNYC » Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:03 am

Slimpee wrote:A buddy of mine got $45k total from Mich last cycle w/ a 169/3.8something


+ 1 Michigan will likely give you 45k over three years and Duke will likely give you 54k over three years.

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby peter618 » Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:01 am

Um...with your GPA why on earth would you go to LS?


Day-to-day engineering work is not for everybody, and it's definitely not for me.

I don't think civil engineering is very sought after by IP practices, but I don't know for sure
ResolutePear wrote:
IAFG wrote:
eandy wrote:Um...with your GPA why on earth would you go to LS?

Civil engineering.


Patent law?

I don't think civil engineering is very sought after by IP practices, but I don't know for sure


That's what I want to do. Even if they're not highly sought-after, I think I could swing it. We engineers all take enough of the same core classes that there's not a huge difference in the abilities of a mechanical/civil/electrical engineering UG upon graduation. And it is also true that to sit for the patent bar you simply must have an engineering/hard science UG degree.

Retake unless you don't want biglaw.


Definitely don't want biglaw.

+ 1 Michigan will likely give you 45k over three years and Duke will likely give you 54k over three years.


That would be nice; hopefully something like that comes along.

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Postby IAFG » Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:50 am

If you don't want to do biglaw, what do you have in mind?

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby peter618 » Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:35 pm

^Patent law; location and specifics aren't really important to me yet. I just know I don't want to be a part of the rat race - working 100 hours a week, hating my life, and all that.

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby JazzOne » Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:57 pm

peter618 wrote:^Patent law; location and specifics aren't really important to me yet. I just know I don't want to be a part of the rat race - working 100 hours a week, hating my life, and all that.

Do you know any patent attorneys who aren't running the rat race?

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby ResolutePear » Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:03 pm

JazzOne wrote:
peter618 wrote:^Patent law; location and specifics aren't really important to me yet. I just know I don't want to be a part of the rat race - working 100 hours a week, hating my life, and all that.

Do you know any patent attorneys who aren't running the rat race?


This. It's a service industry - get used to long hours, even if they don't happen every day, month, or year.

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Postby rayiner » Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:45 pm

peter618 wrote:^Patent law; location and specifics aren't really important to me yet. I just know I don't want to be a part of the rat race - working 100 hours a week, hating my life, and all that.


Patent law is biglaw.

Retake, get 171+; go to Stanford; work at Irell.

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Re: A shot at money with 169/3.93 engineering UG

Postby SisyphusHappy » Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:26 pm

We have identical numbers. I'm looking for the same thing you are and applying from Chicago through William and Mary. Hopefully somebody comes through with some money. LSN has quite a few 169, 3.9Xers with 100k from the top 20.




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