manthony wrote:Didn't mean to come off as an a**hole though you obviously are. There are studies that show the LSAT is just indicator of how people do first year of law school. And 4 correct answers does not make a legal genius (the difference between a 165 and a 168). And the only ranking of prestige that people pay attention to is from one magazine. And there are debates as to whether or not their ranking method is even correct. The vitriol for somebody voicing their displeasure with a process and ranking system of debatable merit is not warranted.
But back to the topic at hand... There is just a disconnect between what these schools say on their websites about a process that is "more than just numbers" and what the statistics show. That's why I posted what I did. I just wanted to know my chances. And just to be clear, my counselor never said "you will get in." She just said it is worth applying. All T-14 are reach schools for me I understand that. I just was wondering what people think, if there was really anything beyond numbers that schools look at. I figured this would be the website to go to get analysis from Type-A people, of which I don't have a lot of friends that fit into that category. I already got into BU so I will be going to law school either way.
My post hardly makes me an asshole, even if it wasn't particularly pleasant to hear. I even went so far as to put in my "tough love" disclaimer and recognize that I was being rather harsh, but I think it's some advice that you probably need to hear. My apologies if it didn't go over so well, but the US News blame is ridiculous - you can always find somebody else to blame. Everybody recognizes that the US News ranking system has flaws, but that has little to do with the fact that others were better (even if only marginally) than you on the sole objective standard that admissions committees have. At the end of the day, the ability of others to be just that
much quicker puts them ahead of you. It's brutal, but it's the way it is.
Also, you still aren't getting IAGF's point if you're talking about the disconnect between the "more than just numbers" and the statistics. There are plenty of people who have T14 numbers but just won't get into the few T14 schools that genuinely care about soft factors. At these few schools, having the numbers is necessary, but not sufficient to get you in. Therefore, the admissions process can be seen as "more than just numbers."
manthony wrote:I just don't appreciate when people are condescending implying I'm stupid for even asking thee questions.
Two points here: First, I never implied that you were stupid, only that you were placing the blame on others. Second, my response was entirely to this:
manthony wrote:Thanks for all the responses. This process just seems too numbers oriented. I got 18 wrong on the June LSAT and got a 165. If I had gotten 4 more right, or 14 wrong, I would have gotten a 168. I blame U.S. News and World Reports...
You're welcome to ask questions all you want - I'm more than happy to answer. But it's not as though you were asking a question and somebody jumped on you for not knowing the answer. You were blaming somebody else for hurting your chances at admissions, and that just isn't likely to win you much sympathy.
Again, my apologies if my post came off harsh - I tend to have little patience for people who have trouble taking responsibility for themselves. Best of luck to you with the rest of your applications, and with the LSAT retake (if you end up going that route)