3.41/156 /3 Years Experience As A Medical Lab Scientist

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Re: 3.41/156 /3 Years Experience As A Medical Lab Scientist

Postby ResolutePear » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:29 am

cartercl wrote:
thegor1987 wrote:
cartercl wrote:
thegor1987 wrote:+1

so many elitist douchebags on here it's nice to hear these kinds of rants now and again.

To the OP, since you are taking out a loan to pay for law school, a good option might be going to a regional state school where you could acquire instate tuition after one year. UF, Arizona State, for example. This is one of the best ways that you could minimize your debt. Good luck on your retake!


You know what, being an elitist is one thing. But giving poor advice is another. Why don't you also inform the OP of the barriers to acquiring in-state tuition. You can start by stating the obvious: It's a bitch.


Why is it 'a bitch'?


From UF's website:

A legal resident or resident is a person who has maintained his or her residence in this state for the preceding year, has purchased a home which is occupied by him or her as his or her residence, or has established a domicile in this state pursuant to Florida State Statute, 222.17.

However, a resident for tuition purposes is a person who qualifies as provided in state statute, F.S. 1009.21, for the in-state tuition rate; a nonresident for tuition purposes is a person who does not qualify for the in-state tuition rate. It is possible to be both a legal resident of the state and a nonresident for tuition purposes concurrently.

The independent student who is claiming residency must show that their residency in the state was not merely temporary or incidental to enrolling at the institution of higher education. Living in or attending school in Florida will not, in itself, establish legal residence for tuition purposes.

......

Florida residency for tuition purposes is based solely on an independent claimant. If a student is dependent as per federal tax law, then the parent or legal guardian becomes the claimant, and residency for tuition purposes is based on that parent or legal guardian. If a student is independent as per federal tax law, the student is the claimant and residency for tuition purposes is based on the student. In most cases, copies of federal income tax returns are required to substantiate dependent or independent status. Further criteria for determining dependency can be found in section 3.0 of the Residency Guidelines.

Florida statute requires the claimant (the person claiming residency) to be a U.S. citizen, permanent resident alien or other legal alien granted indefinite stay by DHS. The claimant must establish and maintain a legal Florida residence for at least 12 months prior to the first day of classes in the semester for which in-state residency status is sought. The 12-month qualifying period requires documentary evidence of residence as requested by the appropriate university official. Examples of relevant documentation may be found on the residency reclassification request form. Further criteria on documentary evidence can be found in section 4.8 of the Residency Guidelines.

In addition to the claimant's requisite 12-month residency in the state of Florida, an independent student claiming residency for tuition purposes must also show that their presence in the state was not merely temporary or incidental to enrolling at the institution of higher education. Additional evidence or documentation will be required for meeting this requirement of reclassification. This requirement must be satisfied in order to obtain residency for tuition purposes. Such documentation is described in section 5.2 of the Residency Guidelines.


etc, etc... Ain't that a bitch?


Yeah, we're Nazi's down here in Florida.

Oh and forget about UF with that GPA/LSAT combo. You'd need at least 165 if not 168.

How does any of this change the advice given? RETAKE.

Hell, those stats are borderline FIU.

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Re: 3.41/156 /3 Years Experience As A Medical Lab Scientist

Postby akili » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:29 am

The whole highest ranked l vs. full-ride school debate is a valid one and people have to make their own decisions about what's best for them and their personal situation.

With that said, it doesn't really matter at all in this situation because a 156 isn't going to get you a full-ride at any decent school. Retake, score higher, and then you can debate full ride vs. highest ranking.

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Re: 3.41/156 /3 Years Experience As A Medical Lab Scientist

Postby Joymin » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:31 am

[/quote]

I'm not trying to be elitist here -

You're right. So, if T1 isn't a guarantee - then where does that put lower ranked schools?[/quote]

It does not logically follow from T1 not being a guarantee that the lower-ranked schools will definitely make nothing great out of your career. Please break out of this tunnel vision of yours. There are many variables that go in to building your career, and law school is one of them. It does help if you are from T1, but that is no guarantee. Similarly, being from T2 or T3 does not mean you’ll never make it big.

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Re: 3.41/156 /3 Years Experience As A Medical Lab Scientist

Postby Joymin » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:33 am

ResolutePear wrote:
Joymin wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:
Joymin wrote:


Horrible, horrible advice - imo. Taking this advice would literally fuck you in the ass with no lube.. for life!

Do you know why people pay assloads of cash to get into Harvard when a TTT teaches you *THE SAME EXACT THING*?

Well, I'm not saying. This should be obvious by now. Besides, most of the schools on that list fall in T-14 anyways.

Retake.


A degree from Tier 1 is no guarantee towards getting to spend your retirement years on an expensive yacht in the Cayman Islands. I have known people coming out of places like the GWU and getting into an area totally different from what they wanted to (like brainless document review jobs).

DON”T GET CARRIED AWAY BY THESE RANKING SYSTEMS.


I'm not trying to be elitist here -

You're right. So, if T1 isn't a guarantee - then where does that put lower ranked schools?


It does not logically follow from T1 not being a guarantee that the lower-ranked schools will definitely make nothing great out of your career Please break out of this tunnel vision of yours. There are many variables that go in to building your career, and law school is one of them. It does help if you are from T1, but that is no guarantee. Similarly, being from T2 or T3 does not mean you’ll never make it big.

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Re: 3.41/156 /3 Years Experience As A Medical Lab Scientist

Postby ResolutePear » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:36 am

Joymin wrote:
I'm not trying to be elitist here -

You're right. So, if T1 isn't a guarantee - then where does that put lower ranked schools?

It does not logically follow from T1 not being a guarantee that the lower-ranked schools will definitely make nothing great out of your career. Please break out of this tunnel vision of yours. There are many variables that go in to building your career, and law school is one of them. It does help if you are from T1, but that is no guarantee. Similarly, being from T2 or T3 does not mean you’ll never make it big.


Everybody's entitled to their opinion.

I personally prefer not to play the lottery and instead try to secure gainful employment.

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Re: 3.41/156 /3 Years Experience As A Medical Lab Scientist

Postby JazzOne » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:53 am

Retake

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Re: 3.41/156 /3 Years Experience As A Medical Lab Scientist

Postby thegor1987 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:54 am

cartercl wrote:
thegor1987 wrote:
cartercl wrote:
thegor1987 wrote:+1

so many elitist douchebags on here it's nice to hear these kinds of rants now and again.

To the OP, since you are taking out a loan to pay for law school, a good option might be going to a regional state school where you could acquire instate tuition after one year. UF, Arizona State, for example. This is one of the best ways that you could minimize your debt. Good luck on your retake!


You know what, being an elitist is one thing. But giving poor advice is another. Why don't you also inform the OP of the barriers to acquiring in-state tuition. You can start by stating the obvious: It's a bitch.


Why is it 'a bitch'?


From UF's website:

A legal resident or resident is a person who has maintained his or her residence in this state for the preceding year, has purchased a home which is occupied by him or her as his or her residence, or has established a domicile in this state pursuant to Florida State Statute, 222.17.

However, a resident for tuition purposes is a person who qualifies as provided in state statute, F.S. 1009.21, for the in-state tuition rate; a nonresident for tuition purposes is a person who does not qualify for the in-state tuition rate. It is possible to be both a legal resident of the state and a nonresident for tuition purposes concurrently.

The independent student who is claiming residency must show that their residency in the state was not merely temporary or incidental to enrolling at the institution of higher education. Living in or attending school in Florida will not, in itself, establish legal residence for tuition purposes.

......

Florida residency for tuition purposes is based solely on an independent claimant. If a student is dependent as per federal tax law, then the parent or legal guardian becomes the claimant, and residency for tuition purposes is based on that parent or legal guardian. If a student is independent as per federal tax law, the student is the claimant and residency for tuition purposes is based on the student. In most cases, copies of federal income tax returns are required to substantiate dependent or independent status. Further criteria for determining dependency can be found in section 3.0 of the Residency Guidelines.

Florida statute requires the claimant (the person claiming residency) to be a U.S. citizen, permanent resident alien or other legal alien granted indefinite stay by DHS. The claimant must establish and maintain a legal Florida residence for at least 12 months prior to the first day of classes in the semester for which in-state residency status is sought. The 12-month qualifying period requires documentary evidence of residence as requested by the appropriate university official. Examples of relevant documentation may be found on the residency reclassification request form. Further criteria on documentary evidence can be found in section 4.8 of the Residency Guidelines.

In addition to the claimant's requisite 12-month residency in the state of Florida, an independent student claiming residency for tuition purposes must also show that their presence in the state was not merely temporary or incidental to enrolling at the institution of higher education. Additional evidence or documentation will be required for meeting this requirement of reclassification. This requirement must be satisfied in order to obtain residency for tuition purposes. Such documentation is described in section 5.2 of the Residency Guidelines.


etc, etc... Ain't that a bitch?



Yea, it is the uncertainty which causes increased stress, but I assumed the OP is aware of the process of getting in-state tuition so I did not mention it. From what I hear most people get in-state after a year of residency anyways.

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Re: 3.41/156 /3 Years Experience As A Medical Lab Scientist

Postby IAFG » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:09 am

Is it troll day?

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Re: 3.41/156 /3 Years Experience As A Medical Lab Scientist

Postby GrapeApe » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:28 am

Yeah, what are the odds of landing a full ride anywhere with those numbers? I honestly don't know and am just kind of curious.


Looking at LawSchoolNumbers, the OP could get close to a full ride at ONU.

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Re: 3.41/156 /3 Years Experience As A Medical Lab Scientist

Postby FuManChusco » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:04 am

IAFG wrote:Is it troll day?


Seriously. This is some of the worst advice I've ever seen. TCR is retake.

/thread.




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