2.5/163 SoCal

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2.5/163 SoCal

Postby gmiser66 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:45 pm

I need to attend school in Southern California. What should my strategy be? Can I even get in anywhere? I'm 28 with successes in the business world since college. Will my GPA be overlooked at all because it was so long ago?

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby mst » Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:24 pm

You have a 50/50 shot at Southwestern Law. Worth it in this economy? Probably not. That's the only school in LA you have a shot with though.
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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby bk1 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:25 pm

gmiser66 wrote:Will my GPA be overlooked at all because it was so long ago?


Not really.

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby fragged » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:33 pm

I'll try to be a little more helpful...

Your 163 is strong for a couple of schools in Southern California.

First, it should get you into Southwestern.

Now, aim a little higher and look at Chapman. They just went from T3 into the top 100. They are regional, but solid in the Orange County area. Your 163 will give you a shot there, since it is well above their 75th.

Finally, I would aim even higher and apply to Loyola. Your GPA is pretty low, but your LSAT is right at their 75th. Apply to their part-time evening program and you may have a better shot.

Bottom line on your experience, it will definitely help your application, not hurt it. Just write up a solid PS and an addendum for your GPA.

Good luck!

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby lawschoollll » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:45 pm

fragged wrote:I'll try to be a little more helpful...

Your 163 is strong for a couple of schools in Southern California.

First, it should get you into Southwestern.

Now, aim a little higher and look at Chapman. They just went from T3 into the top 100. They are regional, but solid in the Orange County area. Your 163 will give you a shot there, since it is well above their 75th.

Finally, I would aim even higher and apply to Loyola. Your GPA is pretty low, but your LSAT is right at their 75th. Apply to their part-time evening program and you may have a better shot.

Bottom line on your experience, it will definitely help your application, not hurt it. Just write up a solid PS and an addendum for your GPA.

Good luck!

... so definitely don't listen to this guy...

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby fragged » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:27 pm

lawschoollll wrote:
fragged wrote:I'll try to be a little more helpful...

Your 163 is strong for a couple of schools in Southern California.

First, it should get you into Southwestern.

Now, aim a little higher and look at Chapman. They just went from T3 into the top 100. They are regional, but solid in the Orange County area. Your 163 will give you a shot there, since it is well above their 75th.

Finally, I would aim even higher and apply to Loyola. Your GPA is pretty low, but your LSAT is right at their 75th. Apply to their part-time evening program and you may have a better shot.

Bottom line on your experience, it will definitely help your application, not hurt it. Just write up a solid PS and an addendum for your GPA.

Good luck!

... so definitely don't listen to this guy...



He's right... Why don't you just accept defeat and apply to Whittier, Western State, and any other T4's that have the lowest admissions standards. After all, why put the effort in and aim high? Just listen to everyone who tells you what you can't do, and follow their instructions.

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby MysticalWheel » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:20 pm

fragged wrote:
lawschoollll wrote:
fragged wrote:I'll try to be a little more helpful...

Your 163 is strong for a couple of schools in Southern California.

First, it should get you into Southwestern.

Now, aim a little higher and look at Chapman. They just went from T3 into the top 100. They are regional, but solid in the Orange County area. Your 163 will give you a shot there, since it is well above their 75th.

Finally, I would aim even higher and apply to Loyola. Your GPA is pretty low, but your LSAT is right at their 75th. Apply to their part-time evening program and you may have a better shot.

Bottom line on your experience, it will definitely help your application, not hurt it. Just write up a solid PS and an addendum for your GPA.

Good luck!

... so definitely don't listen to this guy...



He's right... Why don't you just accept defeat and apply to Whittier, Western State, and any other T4's that have the lowest admissions standards. After all, why put the effort in and aim high? Just listen to everyone who tells you what you can't do, and follow their instructions.


Are you being sarcastic?

MW

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby RVP11 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:25 pm

mst wrote:You have a 50/50 shot at Southwestern Law. Worth it in this economy? Probably not.


Worth it in any economy?

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby 2807 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:38 pm

RVP11 wrote:
mst wrote:You have a 50/50 shot at Southwestern Law. Worth it in this economy? Probably not.


Worth it in any economy?


It was for Marcia Clark, and Larry H. Parker.

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby 005618502 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:10 pm

Hey OP. This is not the place for this kind of advice. Chapman is a decent school, you wont get biglaw from it if thats what your are looking for. You could start your own practice or find a job with the state. You need to fingure out what your career goals are and if it is worth the debt.
Chapman will stay in the T100 IMO from here on out. Hopefully move on up.

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby gbpackerbacker » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:31 pm

mst wrote:You have a 50/50 shot at Southwestern Law. Worth it in this economy? Probably not. That's the only school in LA you have a shot with though.

WRONG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_College_of_Law

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby RVP11 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:38 pm

2807 wrote:
RVP11 wrote:
mst wrote:You have a 50/50 shot at Southwestern Law. Worth it in this economy? Probably not.


Worth it in any economy?


It was for Marcia Clark, and Larry H. Parker.


Sure.

But this is like saying that because buying lottery tickets was "worth it" to the winners, it is therefore "worth it" for you. If only.

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby im_blue » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:09 am

You have a shot at Southwestern and Chapman. Retake if you want to aim higher.

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby 005618502 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:47 pm

im_blue wrote:You have a shot at Southwestern and Chapman. Retake if you want to aim higher.


This. Chapman, in my imo, is the better choice here

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby Grizz » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:06 pm

fragged wrote:Now, aim a little higher and look at Chapman. They just went from T3 into the top 100.


lol doesn't matter.

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby FuManChusco » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:33 pm

Retake. Any school willing to take your numbers is probably not worth going to. I know because I have a 2.5 myself.

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Re: 2.5/163 SoCal

Postby nStiver » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:13 pm

Ya that 2.5 gpa blows pretty bad, doesn't it? My 164 is the only thing I have going for me. PT's averaged around 170, but I blew it on test day. Literally 6 years ago, I had a flunk out semester at a small regional school straight out of high school. I played tennis and partied. Like a moron, I never thought it would turn around and bite me in the ass 6.5 years down the road lol. With a 170 it might have been a different story, but now a lot of doors are closed to me.

But I have decided to go to UNM anyway, so I think it will work out for me despite the shit-score. UNM law is the only law school in New Mexico, it is a solid T2, gives a huge preference to residents, has total access to the legal market in the state, and only costs $1,360 a year for residents. A 164 as a resident is like an auto-admit. If I'm not going to a T14 school, I'll be damned if I get over 50k in debt. If everything works out, I will graduate with minimal debt and have a decent job in Albuquerque when I graduate. Its no BigLaw, but I am OK with that.

The point of all this is: 1) Retake if you can, get the 170. 2) If you don't retake, seriously re-evaluate your life options. If you still want to be a lawyer, try to make it happen for as cheap as possible. If you hate it you can still get out of the game with minimal debt.

Good Luck




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