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Gotti wrote:

FunkyJD wrote:What does Georgetown offer you that UVa won't? Aside from a headache finding decent, affordable housing?

GULC in physically in DC, has way better lay prestige even though it’s 4 under UVA, and places way better in CA (where I’m from)…I’d much rather go there. I know UVA and GULC compete for the same DC market, but UVA does not place much at all in CA

rad law wrote:

Gotti wrote:

FunkyJD wrote:What does Georgetown offer you that UVa won't? Aside from a headache finding decent, affordable housing?

GULC in physically in DC, has way better lay prestige even though it’s 4 under UVA, and places way better in CA (where I’m from)…I’d much rather go there. I know UVA and GULC compete for the same DC market, but UVA does not place much at all in CA

Ask around on TLS or contact some alums about Cali placement. Just because people don't take jobs in Cali doesn't necessarily mean they can't. And don't let lay prestige factor into your decision. It's all but meaningless.

FunkyJD wrote:

rad law wrote:

Gotti wrote:

FunkyJD wrote:What does Georgetown offer you that UVa won't? Aside from a headache finding decent, affordable housing?

GULC is physically in DC, has way better lay prestige even though it’s 4 under UVA, and places way better in CA (where I’m from)…I’d much rather go there. I know UVA and GULC compete for the same DC market, but UVA does not place much at all in CA

Ask around on TLS or contact some alums about Cali placement. Just because people don't take jobs in Cali doesn't necessarily mean they can't. And don't let lay prestige factor into your decision. It's all but meaningless.

This is the more relevant point, and a very good one.

Gotti wrote:I want to get into T14 or even T20. Took the LSAT twice...sucks because 164 on my lowest practice test preparing for Oct 2010 and was consistently scoring 167-170. But I don't want to risk not applying early because I think nerves get to me on test day so I will invariably do worse on the actual test than on PTs.

I'm not banking on anything in the T14, but if you could tell me my chances at the following schools I'm applying to, I'd appreciate it.

Undergrad at UCI, double major in Psych & Poli Sci, NON URM
GPA: 3.96
LSAT: 163/164

Softs:
Phi Beta Kappa
Phi Alpha Delta (Pre-Law Frat)
Deans Honor list 11 quarters
Worked 20-30 hrs/week for my 2nd-4th years
Captain of my a cappella team (member for 4+ years)
1 year off after undergrad, working full time
LORs: 2 employers & Poli Sci Law Professor at UCI

Applying to (tentative list):
CLS - out
NYU-out
GULC-out-
Boalt-WL/who knows
Fordham-In
Notre Dame (Fee waiver)-in
UMich (Fee waiver)-out
UCLA (Fee waiver)-out
GWU-in
Northwestern (Fee Waiver)-out
Stanford-out
U Minnessota (Fee Waiver)-in
UVA (Fee Waiver)-in with ED otherwide Out
U Chicago-out
Cornell-Out
Hastings-in with $$
USC-donno
Duke-donno



Any input would be muuuuccchhhh appreciated. Thanks!!!

FuManChusco wrote:I think it's a moot point because OP isn't getting into GULC. His only chance at T14 is probably UVA ED. Rad is right once again though. Lay prestige might be good to brag to your friends, but it's completely irrelevant in looking for a job. Lawyers know what UVA is in Cali even if your friends don't.

AssumptionRequired wrote:

FuManChusco wrote:I think it's a moot point because OP isn't getting into GULC. His only chance at T14 is probably UVA ED. Rad is right once again though. Lay prestige might be good to brag to your friends, but it's completely irrelevant in looking for a job. Lawyers know what UVA is in Cali even if your friends don't.

Unless its a small firm filled with T3-4 lawyers, again they dont really matter.

UVA>>GULC no matter where you want to work. Even DC

Gotti wrote:

AssumptionRequired wrote:

FuManChusco wrote:I think it's a moot point because OP isn't getting into GULC. His only chance at T14 is probably UVA ED. Rad is right once again though. Lay prestige might be good to brag to your friends, but it's completely irrelevant in looking for a job. Lawyers know what UVA is in Cali even if your friends don't.

Unless its a small firm filled with T3-4 lawyers, again they dont really matter.

UVA>>GULC no matter where you want to work. Even DC

obviously DC...but i'm telling you lol no one cares about uva here in LA. GULC > UVA in LA.

AssumptionRequired wrote:

Gotti wrote:

AssumptionRequired wrote:

FuManChusco wrote:I think it's a moot point because OP isn't getting into GULC. His only chance at T14 is probably UVA ED. Rad is right once again though. Lay prestige might be good to brag to your friends, but it's completely irrelevant in looking for a job. Lawyers know what UVA is in Cali even if your friends don't.

Unless its a small firm filled with T3-4 lawyers, again they dont really matter.

UVA>>GULC no matter where you want to work. Even DC

obviously DC...but i'm telling you lol no one cares about uva here in LA. GULC > UVA in LA.

This is rediculous to say. You have no idea what you are talking about. GULC is never looked at better then UVA. It is slipping out of the T14 and anyone who matters (those looking to hire for biglaw) know this.

Obviously DC? this is where GULC is strongest, from there it falls significantly

PS i'm a girl.

AssumptionRequired wrote:

PS i'm a girl.

Okay?

Good luck with your cycle. I am one that thinks with the right Why Berkeley statements you have a GREAT shot at Berk. They love high GPA.

Did you score low on SAT? (below 95%) if so send that in to show standardize tests do not correlate to your performance.

AssumptionRequired wrote:

PS i'm a girl.

Okay?

Good luck with your cycle. I am one that thinks with the right Why Berkeley statements you have a GREAT shot at Berk. They love high GPA.

Did you score low on SAT? (below 95%) if so send that in to show standardize tests do not correlate to your performance.

AssumptionRequired wrote:

PS i'm a girl.

Okay?

Good luck with your cycle. I am one that thinks with the right Why Berkeley statements you have a GREAT shot at Berk. They love high GPA.

Did you score low on SAT? (below 95%) if so send that in to show standardize tests do not correlate to your performance.

Gotti wrote:

AssumptionRequired wrote:

PS i'm a girl.

Okay?

Good luck with your cycle. I am one that thinks with the right Why Berkeley statements you have a GREAT shot at Berk. They love high GPA.

Did you score low on SAT? (below 95%) if so send that in to show standardize tests do not correlate to your performance.

Oh i meant that to FuManChusco who kept saying "him" lol

but thank you. I wrote a why berkeley and I thought it was good!

I got a 1980 on my SAT...should i send it in?

whymeohgodno wrote:

AssumptionRequired wrote:

PS i'm a girl.

Okay?

Good luck with your cycle. I am one that thinks with the right Why Berkeley statements you have a GREAT shot at Berk. They love high GPA.

Did you score low on SAT? (below 95%) if so send that in to show standardize tests do not correlate to your performance.

You and the OP have like exactly the same stats lol.

Gotti wrote: Who knows…maybe I’ll ED GULC and if I get rejected, ED UVA.

rad law wrote:

Gotti wrote: Who knows…maybe I’ll ED GULC and if I get rejected, ED UVA.

This is dumb. You're almost assuredly not getting ED GULC, and your chances at ED UVA were better earlier in the cycle. And they will keep getting worse.

AssumptionRequired wrote:

rad law wrote:

Gotti wrote: Who knows…maybe I’ll ED GULC and if I get rejected, ED UVA.

This is dumb. You're almost assuredly not getting ED GULC, and your chances at ED UVA were better earlier in the cycle. And they will keep getting worse.

true, but i dont think OP wants UVA to badly. As she said she would rather hear from Berkeley or Michigan (no chance at Mich)

FuManChusco wrote:

AssumptionRequired wrote:

rad law wrote:

Gotti wrote: Who knows…maybe I’ll ED GULC and if I get rejected, ED UVA.

This is dumb. You're almost assuredly not getting ED GULC, and your chances at ED UVA were better earlier in the cycle. And they will keep getting worse.

true, but i dont think OP wants UVA to badly. As she said she would rather hear from Berkeley or Michigan (no chance at Mich)

I'm saying no chance at either. I hope OP likes GW because that's where she is probably going to end up at this point.

FuManChusco wrote:

AssumptionRequired wrote:

rad law wrote:

Gotti wrote: Who knows…maybe I’ll ED GULC and if I get rejected, ED UVA.

This is dumb. You're almost assuredly not getting ED GULC, and your chances at ED UVA were better earlier in the cycle. And they will keep getting worse.

true, but i dont think OP wants UVA to badly. As she said she would rather hear from Berkeley or Michigan (no chance at Mich)

I'm saying no chance at either. I hope OP likes GW because that's where she is probably going to end up at this point.

FuManChusco wrote:Haha, the lakers aren't too shabby either. At least the heat suck. I hope I'm wrong too. As a hardcore slacker/splitter, it doesn't seem fair that a near 4.0 would miss T14 because of a few lsat points. I just think a 164 is going to have a lot of trouble and if OP really wants T14 then UVA ED might be the only chance. It's hard to predict as she's on the cusp at a lot of places. We'll see. I would trade places with her in a second though. At least she won't end up with only midwest choices, which is the unenviable position I think I'm going to find myself in.

Edit for comment above: OP, you have a chance, don't get me wrong. I just wouldn't get your hopes up for M or Boalt as I think its less than 50/50. Also, no disrespect to GW. I would go there in a second. I just think its a bad choice for someone with your GPA.

RJ127 wrote:I have no idea how reverse splitter cycles look in the eyes of adcomms, especially with things like WE and other softs.