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Chances? 162 3.47

Postby trayball23 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:36 pm

Heres a little infor please don't take it as bragging bc I know most of you on this site own me scores and resume wise. 162 3.47 ND grad 2010, interned for 2 DA's and Congress, Marine Officer. Please let me know where in the top 100 I should be applying or any schools that may be very receptive to military applicants.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:37 pm

You should try Tulane. You may get waitlisted though - but it's still worth a shot.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby gz5hc9 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:03 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:You should try Tulane. You may get waitlisted though - but it's still worth a shot.


^^ This proves how ridiculous people on this website are. If you apply early enough, Tulane is a near lock for someone from Notre Dame with good softs and those numbers - your LSAT is at their median, and your GPA is just below it (but you are coming from ND, so that should help).

Generally, you should apply to schools ranked between 20 and 30 as your reaches, and schools ranked between 30 and 50 as your targets. Your safeties would be high tier-2 schools.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby trayball23 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:16 pm

thanks I appreciate the helo. Is tier 2 mean outside the top 100? I was applying to local school such as syracuse, Buffalo and albany as safes

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby SilverE2 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:18 pm

gz5hc9 wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:You should try Tulane. You may get waitlisted though - but it's still worth a shot.


^^ This proves how ridiculous people on this website are. If you apply early enough, Tulane is a near lock for someone from Notre Dame with good softs and those numbers - your LSAT is at their median, and your GPA is just below it (but you are coming from ND, so that should help).

Generally, you should apply to schools ranked between 20 and 30 as your reaches, and schools ranked between 30 and 50 as your targets. Your safeties would be high tier-2 schools.


Out of people with a 162 on LSN who applied to Tulane, 6 were accepted, 5 were waitlisted, and 3 were rejected. Out of people with a 162 and a 3.3-3.5, 2 were accepted, 1 was rejected, and 3 were waitlisted. Doesn't quite seem like a "lock", in fact I would go ahead and say the above poster who you lambasted was quite correct in saying he may be waitlisted.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby im_blue » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:27 pm

I would apply to Tulane, Houston, Temple, Villanova, Pepperdine, Loyola LA, Chicago Kent, and Loyola Chicago.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby trayball23 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:28 pm

what would be the highest ranked schools I should take a shot at... granted i am retaking in Dec

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby im_blue » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:30 pm

trayball23 wrote:what would be the highest ranked schools I should take a shot at... granted i am retaking in Dec

if you want highest US news ranking, then Iowa, Wisconsin, UNC, Ohio State, and Wake Forest.
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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby CanadianWolf » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:30 pm

Tier One (the "top tier") is the top fifty (50) law schools as ranked by USNews. Tier Two is roughly the next 50 law schools ranked from 51 or so through 100. Tiers Three & Four contain the final 100 ABA accredited law schools. All four tiers contain approximately 50 law schools. (Try to avoid Tier Four law schools.)
With a 162 LSAT score & a 3.47 GPA, you should be admitted to all Tier Two, Three & Four law schools and be competitive for all but the top twenty Tier One law schools.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby gz5hc9 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:53 pm

SilverE2 wrote:
gz5hc9 wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:You should try Tulane. You may get waitlisted though - but it's still worth a shot.


^^ This proves how ridiculous people on this website are. If you apply early enough, Tulane is a near lock for someone from Notre Dame with good softs and those numbers - your LSAT is at their median, and your GPA is just below it (but you are coming from ND, so that should help).

Generally, you should apply to schools ranked between 20 and 30 as your reaches, and schools ranked between 30 and 50 as your targets. Your safeties would be high tier-2 schools.


Out of people with a 162 on LSN who applied to Tulane, 6 were accepted, 5 were waitlisted, and 3 were rejected. Out of people with a 162 and a 3.3-3.5, 2 were accepted, 1 was rejected, and 3 were waitlisted. Doesn't quite seem like a "lock", in fact I would go ahead and say the above poster who you lambasted was quite correct in saying he may be waitlisted.


LSN is based on self-reports by the same losers who post on here everyday saying gpa and lsat are the only things that matter. The kid went to notre dame, has solid scores, and has good softs - he will get into tier 1 schools.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby trayball23 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:55 pm

is this planned good cop bad cop?

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby czelede » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:03 pm

trayball23 wrote:is this planned good cop bad cop?


It's more "realistic cop" and "refuses to face the sad reality that he can't outperform his numbers" cop.

OP, you have a shot at the lower T1, but waitlists can always be a possibility with schools you aren't safe at. If there is a secondary market you might want to practice, I would target a regionally strong school in that area and try to find some $$. You shouldn't have to look beyond T2 for safeties.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby gz5hc9 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:13 pm

czelede wrote:
trayball23 wrote:is this planned good cop bad cop?


It's more "realistic cop" and "refuses to face the sad reality that he can't outperform his numbers" cop.

OP, you have a shot at the lower T1, but waitlists can always be a possibility with schools you aren't safe at. If there is a secondary market you might want to practice, I would target a regionally strong school in that area and try to find some $$. You shouldn't have to look beyond T2 for safeties.


best advice you'll ever get: don't read the forums on this website

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby whymeohgodno » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:15 pm

gz5hc9 wrote:
SilverE2 wrote:
gz5hc9 wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:You should try Tulane. You may get waitlisted though - but it's still worth a shot.


^^ This proves how ridiculous people on this website are. If you apply early enough, Tulane is a near lock for someone from Notre Dame with good softs and those numbers - your LSAT is at their median, and your GPA is just below it (but you are coming from ND, so that should help).

Generally, you should apply to schools ranked between 20 and 30 as your reaches, and schools ranked between 30 and 50 as your targets. Your safeties would be high tier-2 schools.


Out of people with a 162 on LSN who applied to Tulane, 6 were accepted, 5 were waitlisted, and 3 were rejected. Out of people with a 162 and a 3.3-3.5, 2 were accepted, 1 was rejected, and 3 were waitlisted. Doesn't quite seem like a "lock", in fact I would go ahead and say the above poster who you lambasted was quite correct in saying he may be waitlisted.


LSN is based on self-reports by the same losers who post on here everyday saying gpa and lsat are the only things that matter. The kid went to notre dame, has solid scores, and has good softs - he will get into tier 1 schools.


Since when is going to Notre Dame a good soft? lololol.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby St.Remy » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:20 pm

gz5hc9 wrote:
czelede wrote:
trayball23 wrote:is this planned good cop bad cop?


It's more "realistic cop" and "refuses to face the sad reality that he can't outperform his numbers" cop.

OP, you have a shot at the lower T1, but waitlists can always be a possibility with schools you aren't safe at. If there is a secondary market you might want to practice, I would target a regionally strong school in that area and try to find some $$. You shouldn't have to look beyond T2 for safeties.


best advice you'll ever get: don't read the forums on this website


Actual best advice you'll ever get: Don't listen to the loser with only twenty posts who says that he hates this website but trolls it anyway.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby SilverE2 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:27 pm

gz5hc9 wrote:
czelede wrote:
trayball23 wrote:is this planned good cop bad cop?


It's more "realistic cop" and "refuses to face the sad reality that he can't outperform his numbers" cop.

OP, you have a shot at the lower T1, but waitlists can always be a possibility with schools you aren't safe at. If there is a secondary market you might want to practice, I would target a regionally strong school in that area and try to find some $$. You shouldn't have to look beyond T2 for safeties.


best advice you'll ever get: don't read the forums on this website


Man, if you haven't been through an admissions cycle yet, you're in for a nasty surprise.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby gz5hc9 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:28 pm

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandrevie ... s-rankings

ND ranked higher than gtown and cal berkeley...

fact is, 3.47 from ND is more impressive than a 4.0 from a big state school with crappy academics. it just is. better school, smaller classes, more individualized learning experience, etc. people in academia (admissions officers) realize this.

ironically, if this kid had a 162 and a 4.0 from joe blow university, most people on this website would suddenly think he'd have a good chance at schools ranked between 20 and 40 because of his high gpa. instead, he has a 162 and a 3.47, and people start talking about safety schools in the T2. 162, 3.47 belongs in T1:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/rankings.html

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby whymeohgodno » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:28 pm

gz5hc9 wrote:http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings

ND ranked higher than gtown and cal berkeley...

fact is, 3.47 from ND is more impressive than a 4.0 from a big state school with crappy academics. it just is. better school, smaller classes, more individualized learning experience, etc. people in academia (admissions officers) realize this.

ironically, if this kid had a 162 and a 4.0 from joe blow university, most people on this website would suddenly think he'd have a good chance at schools ranked between 20 and 40 because of his high gpa. instead, he has a 162 and a 3.47, and people start talking about safety schools in the T2. 162, 3.47 belongs in T1:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/rankings.html


LOL'D SO HARD

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby trayball23 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:02 pm

I take offense to the "reality that he can't outperform his numbers" statement. If this was the case I wudnt be retaking in a few weeks. I just don't want to waste money on apps. I asked just looking for advice not to try to make myself feel better... If I wanted to make myself feel better i would cheer for a better football team.... Unlike a lot of people who ask question on here I actually don't know the answers before I ask them. So i appreciate all the real advice given and would recommend a new flavor of hatoraide for the bashers.... criticism is appreciated but not snarky sarcasm

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby kalvano » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:31 pm

trayball23 wrote:I just don't want to waste money on apps.


Ask for fee waivers. It works pretty well.

Sorry if you already addressed it, didn't want to wade through the bullshit - where do you want to work? Truly national schools are out, but some strong regional schools are a pretty good possibility.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby jwrash » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:21 pm

gz5hc9 wrote:fact is, 3.47 from ND is more impressive than a 4.0 from a big state school with crappy academics. it just is.

lol

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby Grizz » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:39 pm

Figure out where you want to work. Then apply to schools that do well there. You have no shot at national schools. The only schools you can get into are VERY regional.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby trayball23 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:51 pm

I am committed to be a Marine Jag for 4 years after college so nation vs region dsnt matter to me jsut wanna go to the best school possible.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby Grizz » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:04 pm

trayball23 wrote:I am committed to be a Marine Jag for 4 years after college so nation vs region dsnt matter to me jsut wanna go to the best school possible.


It might matter after you leave JAG so I'd still consider it.

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Re: Chances? 162 3.47

Postby trayball23 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:06 pm

NY and DC would be where I would take the Bar




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