3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

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3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby JDHopeful » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:23 pm

What do you think my chances at Temple Law might be.

It appears that I'm at their 75% GPA and median LSAT.

Thoughts?

Thanks!

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby The Gentleman » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:31 pm

Just from looking at 161's on LSN, I'd say very good. There's a whole slew of applicants who got in with 161/3.4-3.6.

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby HeavenWood » Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:57 pm

The Gentleman wrote:Just from looking at 161's on LSN, I'd say very good. There's a whole slew of applicants who got in with 161/3.4-3.6.


Their range actually increased quite a bit: 161-165 and 3.25-3.72, with medians of 163 and 3.5. Ergo, you are at 25th %ile LSAT and above median but below 75th %ile GPA. Temple is certainly not out of the picture, but it isn't an autoadmit either.

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby JDHopeful » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:21 pm

HeavenWood wrote:
The Gentleman wrote:Just from looking at 161's on LSN, I'd say very good. There's a whole slew of applicants who got in with 161/3.4-3.6.


Their range actually increased quite a bit: 161-165 and 3.25-3.72, with medians of 163 and 3.5. Ergo, you are at 25th %ile LSAT and above median but below 75th %ile GPA. Temple is certainly not out of the picture, but it isn't an autoadmit either.



Where did you get these numbers? Is there a site with updated numbers that I haven't seen?

Thanks for the advice man...

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby whymeohgodno » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:25 pm

HeavenWood wrote:
The Gentleman wrote:Just from looking at 161's on LSN, I'd say very good. There's a whole slew of applicants who got in with 161/3.4-3.6.


Their range actually increased quite a bit: 161-165 and 3.25-3.72, with medians of 163 and 3.5. Ergo, you are at 25th %ile LSAT and above median but below 75th %ile GPA. Temple is certainly not out of the picture, but it isn't an autoadmit either.

Ummm when did this happen?

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby Bankhead » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:39 pm

So you need a 163 for even Temple now... holy shit.

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby HeavenWood » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:47 pm

Bankhead wrote:So you need a 163 for even Temple now... holy shit.


Here is the data for the 2010 entering class:
http://www.law.temple.edu/pages/Prospec ... _Clas.aspx

And relax everybody, Temple is not a particularly median-sensitive school. They are actually quite forgiving of both splitters and reverse splitters, as seen here:
http://temple.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0910/

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby St.Remy » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:50 pm

Bankhead wrote:So you need a 163 for even Temple now... holy shit.


You don't actually. The numbers that Heavenwood was quoting are from this site: http://www.law.temple.edu/pages/Prospec ... _Clas.aspx

This page only lists the numbers for accepted applicants, not the ones who actually ended up attending. Thus it does not reflect admissions standards as well as LSN does (of course Temple is going to accept a bunch of people who apply to it as a safety but never intend to go there, which throws off the accepted applicant statistics that they use). As was stated at the beginning of this thread, OP has a very solid shot which is not diminished by how their median numbers changed last year (because they haven't actually published their median numbers).

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby HeavenWood » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:52 pm

St.Remy wrote:
Bankhead wrote:So you need a 163 for even Temple now... holy shit.


You don't actually. The numbers that Heavenwood was quoting are from this site: http://www.law.temple.edu/pages/Prospec ... _Clas.aspx

This page only lists the numbers for accepted applicants, not the ones who actually ended up attending. Thus it does not reflect admissions standards as well as LSN does (of course Temple is going to accept a bunch of people who apply to it as a safety but never intend to go there, which throws off the accepted applicant statistics that they use). As was stated at the beginning of this thread, OP has a very solid shot which is not diminished by how their median numbers changed last year (because they haven't actually published their median numbers).


I never thought about it that way, fair enough.

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby Dr. Strangelove » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:01 pm

Your chances at Temple are really good!

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby 2009 Prospective » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:31 pm

HeavenWood wrote:
St.Remy wrote:
Bankhead wrote:So you need a 163 for even Temple now... holy shit.


You don't actually. The numbers that Heavenwood was quoting are from this site: http://www.law.temple.edu/pages/Prospec ... _Clas.aspx

This page only lists the numbers for accepted applicants, not the ones who actually ended up attending. Thus it does not reflect admissions standards as well as LSN does (of course Temple is going to accept a bunch of people who apply to it as a safety but never intend to go there, which throws off the accepted applicant statistics that they use). As was stated at the beginning of this thread, OP has a very solid shot which is not diminished by how their median numbers changed last year (because they haven't actually published their median numbers).


I never thought about it that way, fair enough.


The website specifically says, "Profile of 2010 Entering Class" rather than "accepted students." Also, I think the posters in this thread are overstating OP's odds just a bit. While OP should have a reasonable enough chance to warrant an application, it should be noted that 161s have been waitlisted by Temple in recent years.

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby whymeohgodno » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:44 pm

2009 Prospective wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:
St.Remy wrote:
Bankhead wrote:So you need a 163 for even Temple now... holy shit.


You don't actually. The numbers that Heavenwood was quoting are from this site: http://www.law.temple.edu/pages/Prospec ... _Clas.aspx

This page only lists the numbers for accepted applicants, not the ones who actually ended up attending. Thus it does not reflect admissions standards as well as LSN does (of course Temple is going to accept a bunch of people who apply to it as a safety but never intend to go there, which throws off the accepted applicant statistics that they use). As was stated at the beginning of this thread, OP has a very solid shot which is not diminished by how their median numbers changed last year (because they haven't actually published their median numbers).


I never thought about it that way, fair enough.


The website specifically says, "Profile of 2010 Entering Class" rather than "accepted students." Also, I think the posters in this thread are overstating OP's odds just a bit. While OP should have a reasonable enough chance to warrant an application, it should be noted that 161s have been waitlisted by Temple in recent years.


Median GPA of accepted applicants: 3.49
25th/75th percentile GPA: 3.26/3.70

Median LSAT of accepted applicants: 163
25th/75th percentile LSAT: 161/165

While it does say Profile of 2010 Entering class the wording here is a bit ambiguous as stated above.

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby Cosmo Kramer » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:00 pm

Bankhead wrote:So you need a 163 for even Temple now... holy shit.


Don't hate.

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby whymeohgodno » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:03 pm

Cosmo Kramer wrote:
Bankhead wrote:So you need a 163 for even Temple now... holy shit.


Don't hate.


Going to temple with a 168/3.7? Why?

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Re: 3.62; 161; Chances at Temple?

Postby HeavenWood » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:48 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:
Cosmo Kramer wrote:
Bankhead wrote:So you need a 163 for even Temple now... holy shit.


Don't hate.


Going to temple with a 168/3.7? Why?


If you're in-state, can't get into Penn, want to work in Philly, and are working with a tight budget, the small advantages of going to a strong, neighborning regional school like BU or GW would be outweighed by the cost.




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