3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

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3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby whereto4law » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:44 pm

GPA: 3.82, LSAT: 163
Softs: Cum Laude, 2 scholarships, very active on campus - leadership positions in clubs and honor societies
WE: 2 years upon entering; work involves administering grants and running events at a not-for-profit
LOR's: Strong LOR's - 2 from professors and 1 from my boss

I have applied to the following schools (many reaches because I received fee waivers for a bunch, maybe because I am Hispanic):

Baylor, BC, BU, Boalt, UCLA, Colorado, Duke, Emory, UF, FSU (accepted), Fordham, UGA, UH, Illinois, Indiana, Loyola LA, Michigan, NYU, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Penn, USC, Temple, Texas, Tulane, Vandy, UVA, Villanova, Wake

What are my chances at these schools, especially the Top-25? What about $$$ at any of the schools closer to 50?

Thanks for your input and good luck to those applying for enrollment next fall!

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:50 pm

You had a 3.82 and were only cum laude? seriously?

(sorry, I had to throw that out there)

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby whereto4law » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:54 pm

Yes, any helpful comments would be great.

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby HeavenWood » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:59 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:You had a 3.82 and were only cum laude? seriously?

(sorry, I had to throw that out there)


Severe grade inflation at UG?

OP: Your list is all over the place. Where do you want to work?

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby Grizz » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:01 pm

whereto4law wrote:GPA: 3.82, LSAT: 163
Softs: Cum Laude, 2 scholarships, very active on campus - leadership positions in clubs and honor societies
WE: 2 years upon entering; work involves administering grants and running events at a not-for-profit
LOR's: Strong LOR's - 2 from professors and 1 from my boss

I have applied to the following schools (many reaches because I received fee waivers for a bunch, maybe because I am Hispanic):

Baylor, BC, BU, Boalt, UCLA, Colorado, Duke, Emory, UF, FSU (accepted), Fordham, UGA, UH, Illinois, Indiana, Loyola LA, Michigan, NYU, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Penn, USC, Temple, Texas, Tulane, Vandy, UVA, Villanova, Wake

What are my chances at these schools, especially the Top-25? What about $$$ at any of the schools closer to 50?

Thanks for your input and good luck to those applying for enrollment next fall!


Just offhand, I know you're almost assuredly not gonna get BC, BU, Boalt, UCLA, Duke, Emory, Fordham, UGA, Illinois, Michigan, NYU, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Penn, USC, Texas, Vandy, UVA

Retake if you really are into a few of those.

Also, where you you want to work? You can't get into any national or strong regional schools.

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby whereto4law » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:02 pm

Minor grade inflation at UG

No preferred practice area

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby HeavenWood » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:03 pm

whereto4law wrote:Minor grade inflation at UG

No preferred practice area


What were the cutoffs for magna and summa?

At my school, which has an average of 3.32, cum laude is 3.25, magna is 3.5, and summa is 3.75 for arts & sciences.
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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby whereto4law » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:05 pm

Not sure, I think 3.85 for magna and 3.85 with a required thesis for summa.

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby Excellence = a Habit » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:06 pm

rad law wrote:
whereto4law wrote:GPA: 3.82, LSAT: 163
Softs: Cum Laude, 2 scholarships, very active on campus - leadership positions in clubs and honor societies
WE: 2 years upon entering; work involves administering grants and running events at a not-for-profit
LOR's: Strong LOR's - 2 from professors and 1 from my boss

I have applied to the following schools (many reaches because I received fee waivers for a bunch, maybe because I am Hispanic):

Baylor, BC, BU, Boalt, UCLA, Colorado, Duke, Emory, UF, FSU (accepted), Fordham, UGA, UH, Illinois, Indiana, Loyola LA, Michigan, NYU, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Penn, USC, Temple, Texas, Tulane, Vandy, UVA, Villanova, Wake

What are my chances at these schools, especially the Top-25? What about $$$ at any of the schools closer to 50?

Thanks for your input and good luck to those applying for enrollment next fall!


Just offhand, I know you're almost assuredly not gonna get BC, BU, Boalt, UCLA, Duke, Emory, Fordham, UGA, Illinois, Michigan, NYU, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Penn, USC, Texas, Vandy, UVA

Retake if you really are into a few of those.

Also, where you you want to work? You can't get into any national or strong regional schools.


Are you URM Hispanic? If so, obviously odds increase substantially. LSN shows scholarships at Emory, UVa, etc. for URM applicants with similar numbers http://search.lawschoolnumbers.com/user ... Cycle=0910

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby HeavenWood » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:07 pm

Excellence = a Habit wrote:
rad law wrote:
whereto4law wrote:GPA: 3.82, LSAT: 163
Softs: Cum Laude, 2 scholarships, very active on campus - leadership positions in clubs and honor societies
WE: 2 years upon entering; work involves administering grants and running events at a not-for-profit
LOR's: Strong LOR's - 2 from professors and 1 from my boss

I have applied to the following schools (many reaches because I received fee waivers for a bunch, maybe because I am Hispanic):

Baylor, BC, BU, Boalt, UCLA, Colorado, Duke, Emory, UF, FSU (accepted), Fordham, UGA, UH, Illinois, Indiana, Loyola LA, Michigan, NYU, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Penn, USC, Temple, Texas, Tulane, Vandy, UVA, Villanova, Wake

What are my chances at these schools, especially the Top-25? What about $$$ at any of the schools closer to 50?

Thanks for your input and good luck to those applying for enrollment next fall!


Just offhand, I know you're almost assuredly not gonna get BC, BU, Boalt, UCLA, Duke, Emory, Fordham, UGA, Illinois, Michigan, NYU, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Penn, USC, Texas, Vandy, UVA

Retake if you really are into a few of those.

Also, where you you want to work? You can't get into any national or strong regional schools.


Are you URM Hispanic? If so, obviously odds increase substantially. LSN shows scholarships at Emory, UVa, etc. for URM applicants with similar numbers http://search.lawschoolnumbers.com/user ... Cycle=0910


If you are Mexican or Puerto Rican, that is the case. If you are any other type of Hispanic, your boost at most schools will range from slight to nonexistent.

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby whereto4law » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:10 pm

Not URM

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby Grizz » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:11 pm

whereto4law wrote:No preferred practice area


I suggest figuring out where in the country you want to live ASAP.

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby whereto4law » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:25 pm

Any of the regions the schools to which I applied are located would be fine.

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby Gemini » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:13 pm

It's interesting how everyone is telling you that you won't get into BC/BU, etc. but all those damn predictors give you a fighting chance. Who is correct here?

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby Blindmelon » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:22 pm

Gemini Hopeful wrote:It's interesting how everyone is telling you that you won't get into BC/BU, etc. but all those damn predictors give you a fighting chance. Who is correct here?


Worth applications. Both have median LSAT of 166, possibly 167 this year.

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby whereto4law » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:47 pm

Gemini/Blind: Thanks for the advice...the advice of previous posters seems to follow the generally negative attitude displayed by many on TLS. Granted, I understand that many of the schools I'm applying to are big reaches.

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby HeavenWood » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:54 pm

whereto4law wrote:Gemini/Blind: Thanks for the advice...the advice of previous posters seems to follow the generally negative attitude displayed by many on TLS. Granted, I understand that many of the schools I'm applying to are big reaches.


For reverse-splitters in your range, LSN is far more reliable than LSP, especially since medians at many of the T30 have gone up. You definitely have a shot (of varying degrees) at BU, BC, UGA, Indiana, and Illinois, but it's far from a sure thing.

If you want to work in Philadelphia, Temple is a decent choice. You will most definitely get in, maybe with some $$.

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Re: 3.82/163/softs, chances at T-25?

Postby mettasutta » Tue May 10, 2011 11:23 pm

rad law wrote:
whereto4law wrote:GPA: 3.82, LSAT: 163
Softs: Cum Laude, 2 scholarships, very active on campus - leadership positions in clubs and honor societies
WE: 2 years upon entering; work involves administering grants and running events at a not-for-profit
LOR's: Strong LOR's - 2 from professors and 1 from my boss

I have applied to the following schools (many reaches because I received fee waivers for a bunch, maybe because I am Hispanic):

Baylor, BC, BU, Boalt, UCLA, Colorado, Duke, Emory, UF, FSU (accepted), Fordham, UGA, UH, Illinois, Indiana, Loyola LA, Michigan, NYU, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Penn, USC, Temple, Texas, Tulane, Vandy, UVA, Villanova, Wake

What are my chances at these schools, especially the Top-25? What about $$$ at any of the schools closer to 50?

Thanks for your input and good luck to those applying for enrollment next fall!


Just offhand, I know you're almost assuredly not gonna get BC, BU, Boalt, UCLA, Duke, Emory, Fordham, UGA, Illinois, Michigan, NYU, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Penn, USC, Texas, Vandy, UVA

Retake if you really are into a few of those.

Also, where you you want to work? You can't get into any national or strong regional schools.


You're being too pessimistic. I'm an ORM with pretty much the same stats (3.82/164) and above average but non game-changing softs and got into BC, Notre Dame, and W&M with a good amount of money. I can't imagine that there's a world of a difference between 163 and a 164 in the eyes of AdComms.

The T14 are unfortunately pipe-dreams w/o a retake. :(




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