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3.91/168

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:06 am
by marsilni
I'd like to go to Berkeley, love to go to Stanford...I think Harvard is probably a reach. When I apply I will have two years of full-time experience in financial services (well-known, F500 insurance/investment management firm), and two prestigious internships under my belt. I know my LSAT is a little low for other schools like Columbia and Chicago, but my GPA is much higher than those schools' medians. Any shot at them? I graduated summa cum laude as an econ major and political science minor (#1 economics grad in the school).

Thanks

Re: 3.91/168

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:56 am
by marsilni
bump

Re: 3.91/168

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:33 am
by tallboone
I had the exact same GPA and went to a top-25 undergrad. Did a little better on the LSAT and had the same amount of time off. Out at HYSCCNB, in everywhere below. You should probably re-take the LSAT.

Re: 3.91/168

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:45 am
by plenipotentiary
Retake if you want Stanford.

Re: 3.91/168

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:01 am
by patrickd139
plenipotentiary wrote:Retake if you want Stanford.

This. Also check out lawschoolnumbers, HourUMD, and Chiashu to get a better idea of how your LSAT/GPA combo stacks up at the other schools.

Re: 3.91/168

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:19 am
by marsilni
Thanks for the advice. I don't know if I would be able to do better on the LSAT. I was averaging 167 during practice, so I don't think I should push my luck - my first diagnostic was a 147! You really think I wouldn't have a good chance at Berkeley? I am not an URM; white male from a top Catholic school on the East Coast.

Is Stanford as much of a black box as people say? I know they put more emphasis on GPA's than LSAT's, but sometimes it's surprising how many people with great numbers get rejected. The reason I feel strongly about at least giving it a shot there is because I do have a meaningful personal statement and extracurriculars that I believe will go over well.

Thanks!

Re: 3.91/168

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:54 pm
by marsilni
Up

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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:07 pm
by patrickd139
marsilni wrote:
Is Stanford as much of a black box as people say? I know they put more emphasis on GPA's than LSAT's, but sometimes it's surprising how many people with great numbers get rejected. The reason I feel strongly about at least giving it a shot there is because I do have a meaningful personal statement and extracurriculars that I believe will go over well.

Thanks!

Stanford is a black box in the "I have a 176/3.95 and they rejected me" kind of way; not the "I have a 161/4.0/TFA experience and I got accepted" kind of way.

Re: 3.91/168

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:53 pm
by marsilni
Yeah, it's almost like they don't want people with excellent hard numbers, unlike Harvard and Yale. Why would someone with those stellar numbers get bounced? Not enough experience? Poor personal statement?

Re: 3.91/168

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:36 pm
by patrickd139
marsilni wrote:Yeah, it's almost like they don't want people with excellent hard numbers, unlike Harvard and Yale. Why would someone with those stellar numbers get bounced? Not enough experience? Poor personal statement?

It's a matter of which people with stellar numbers to take, not whether to take people with stellar numbers.

Re: 3.91/168

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:46 pm
by marsilni
F it. I just signed up for next month's test. I was so nervous the night before the Oct test that I didn't sleep at all. I got 5 wrong on a very manageable RC. This time the test is being offered at my school so between that and having already gone thru it, I think I'll do better.

If your average score ends with .5, does it get rounded up? Does a 171.5 become a 172?

Thanks