3.89, 171. CCN and HYS should I retake?

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3.89, 171. CCN and HYS should I retake?

Postby WhirledWorld » Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:23 pm

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Re: 3.89, 171. CCN and HYS should I retake?

Postby acrossthelake » Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:26 pm

Your chances @ CCN are about 50/50. Without work experience or phenomenal softs, probably out at YHS. If you want a serious shot at YHS, you'll probably want to take time off and get WE as well, and then apply at the very beg. of the next cycle. Last year nearly 3/4 of the incoming class at HLS had been out of undergrad for at least a year. Also, judging from this past cycle and our current cycle so far, HLS is not a fan of retakes, so while you could, and this might help you at CCN, it might not help you enough at YHS. Although, that's really just the only way you improve your chances at HLS, and it's not a sure bet, so it might not be worth it. You could apply this cycle and see how things shake out, just saying that if you are disappointed with your results, that's the way to go. Also, retaking a 171 is risky, depending on what you were PT'ing at.

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Re: 3.89, 171. CCN and HYS should I retake?

Postby UnitarySpace » Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:36 pm

no need to retake for ccn. you'll probably get NYU. HYS will depend on how interesting you are. if you think don't think you're sufficiently interesting you should retake. (depends on what your PTs were like)

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Re: 3.89, 171. CCN and HYS should I retake?

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Re: 3.89, 171. CCN and HYS should I retake?

Postby UnitarySpace » Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:10 pm

acrossthelake wrote:http://nyu.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/0910/


It really comes down to "yellow pentagon" (waitlist) interpretation.

NYU is pretty much a lock. You can probably attribute the yellow in your range to be flukes.

Chicago is trickier. LSN looks scarier than NYU, but I've found that chicago cares about other things like your undergrad, "fit" etc. (From the graph and anecdotally, it also seems like they yield protected last year)

CLS is sort of a black box in your (my? i had numbers similar to yours and I'm going there now) number range.

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Re: 3.89, 171. CCN and HYS should I retake?

Postby im_blue » Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:29 pm

HY - out
S - have a chance
CCN - should get at least one

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Re: 3.89, 171. CCN and HYS should I retake?

Postby mst » Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:58 pm

Where were you practicing around? Was 171 on the low end?

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Re: 3.89, 171. CCN and HYS should I retake?

Postby WhirledWorld » Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:21 am

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Re: 3.89, 171. CCN and HYS should I retake?

Postby im_blue » Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:24 am

You're fine for CCN without a retake, but you won't get HY unless your UG is HYPS or similar (probably need 173+).

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Re: 3.89, 171. CCN and HYS should I retake?

Postby mst » Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:02 am

I wouldn't retake. So what, you averaged a 173/174 and got 2-3 points below your average? Best case, you probably get a 174 on a retake... Worst case you waste a lot of energy and get 171 again. Middle case you got a 173. With a 173/174 I don't see you breaking off a HYS waitlist. But there's a chance. So it might be worth it. Either way, I don't see you getting HYS with your current numbers.

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Re: 3.89, 171. CCN and HYS should I retake?

Postby invisiblesun » Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:24 am

If you want HYS, retake. Even a 174 greatly increases your chances at HYS, and if you can get a 175+ i'd be surprised if you don't get one of them. Also, the downside is low, because if you dip below your first score it won't hurt you much (if at all).

If you want CCN, no need to retake.




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