3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby dominkay » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:26 pm

StateSchoolSplitter wrote:
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Snoring Meatball wrote:I realize that the median is 170, but is 171 a pretty rigid splitter cutoff? I'm confident that I hit 170 on Saturday (I got a 167 in June because I panicked), but I wouldn't bet my firstborn on 171+. I'm 3.1 too, top public, ED, VA resident.


170 was the cut-off last year, but I'm thinking that this year they might raise it to 171 (I am basing this on nothing except that a couple of 170's have been waitlisted). As a VA resident, though, you have more leeway.


Do you think I'm OK?


Probably. Get your ED app in ASAP.

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby 005618502 » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:50 pm

You WILL get rejected (waitlisted) if you apply RD, your ONLY shot is ED. Your GPA is just way to low. Everyone was trying to be very nice, but there it is straight up lol

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby StateSchoolSplitter » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:00 pm

jt1341 wrote:You WILL get rejected (waitlisted) if you apply RD, your ONLY shot is ED. Your GPA is just way to low. Everyone was trying to be very nice, but there it is straight up lol


Right right, I get this.

If I get ED waitlisted, what are my next best options?

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby dominkay » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:04 pm

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jt1341 wrote:You WILL get rejected (waitlisted) if you apply RD, your ONLY shot is ED. Your GPA is just way to low. Everyone was trying to be very nice, but there it is straight up lol


Right right, I get this.

If I get ED waitlisted, what are my next best options?


ED somewhere else in the T14, perhaps Georgetown or Northwestern or Michigan.

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby StateSchoolSplitter » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:06 pm

dominkay wrote:
StateSchoolSplitter wrote:
jt1341 wrote:You WILL get rejected (waitlisted) if you apply RD, your ONLY shot is ED. Your GPA is just way to low. Everyone was trying to be very nice, but there it is straight up lol


Right right, I get this.

If I get ED waitlisted, what are my next best options?


ED somewhere else in the T14, perhaps Georgetown or Northwestern or Michigan.


am I "in" at at least one of these schools, including Virginia?

How about Vanderbilt-GWU RD?

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby 005618502 » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:21 pm

StateSchoolSplitter wrote:
dominkay wrote:
StateSchoolSplitter wrote:
jt1341 wrote:You WILL get rejected (waitlisted) if you apply RD, your ONLY shot is ED. Your GPA is just way to low. Everyone was trying to be very nice, but there it is straight up lol


Right right, I get this.

If I get ED waitlisted, what are my next best options?


ED somewhere else in the T14, perhaps Georgetown or Northwestern or Michigan.


am I "in" at at least one of these schools, including Virginia?

How about Vanderbilt-GWU RD?


Vanderbilt and GWU (especially) i think your in. If you send ur ED in tomorrow (just to say early) i think you nail virginia.

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby Bumi » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:21 pm

StateSchoolSplitter wrote:Should I visit the school ASAP and try to schedule time with a Dean?


No. What the hell?

Step 1) Get your application in ED. Now. Do not wait, do not do anything else, do not worry.

Step 2) There is no other step.

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby Veyron » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:23 pm

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Snoring Meatball wrote:I realize that the median is 170, but is 171 a pretty rigid splitter cutoff? I'm confident that I hit 170 on Saturday (I got a 167 in June because I panicked), but I wouldn't bet my firstborn on 171+. I'm 3.1 too, top public, ED, VA resident.


If you get in, it will be becasue you are a VA resident.


I assume you know I am not a Virginia resident. Why doesn't Meatball's LSAT just 2 pts below mine (June) offset the fact that I did not attend a top public?


No, I didn't know. UVA will be very difficult for you then. Not sure I understand your question, but a 173 is definately above median. The 171 will be close depending on where they set it, its not going to blow anyone away. Add in the lower score and, well, bad-news bears.

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby StateSchoolSplitter » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:17 am

Veyron wrote:
StateSchoolSplitter wrote:
Veyron wrote:
Snoring Meatball wrote:I realize that the median is 170, but is 171 a pretty rigid splitter cutoff? I'm confident that I hit 170 on Saturday (I got a 167 in June because I panicked), but I wouldn't bet my firstborn on 171+. I'm 3.1 too, top public, ED, VA resident.


If you get in, it will be becasue you are a VA resident.


I assume you know I am not a Virginia resident. Why doesn't Meatball's LSAT just 2 pts below mine (June) offset the fact that I did not attend a top public?


No, I didn't know. UVA will be very difficult for you then. Not sure I understand your question, but a 173 is definately above median. The 171 will be close depending on where they set it, its not going to blow anyone away. Add in the lower score and, well, bad-news bears.


Uh oh. Still very difficult with my #s, softs and ED?

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby StateSchoolSplitter » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:55 am

Any more thoughts? I guess being OOS matters a lot here.

Thanks in advance

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby bk1 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:34 pm

You're still almost assuredly in even despite OOS, especially if you get your app in before all the October test-takers do. Heck a 2.9/170 got in last cycle. Submit ED at UVa.

If you're really worried about it, submit now with your ED. And by now I mean now so that your contract arrives tomorrow. On the almost nonexistent chance you do get rejected this will allow you to submit ED at UMich because the 15 days will still be under UMich's deadline (November 1, iirc). On top of that you will have a possible chance to submit ED at GULC after Michigan if UMich returns your decision before GULC's deadline (December 15, iirc).

Long story short. Your UVa ED contract should be in the mail and you should be part of the class of 2014 before the month ends.

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby StateSchoolSplitter » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:40 pm

bk1 wrote:You're still almost assuredly in even despite OOS, especially if you get your app in before all the October test-takers do. Heck a 2.9/170 got in last cycle. Submit ED at UVa.

If you're really worried about it, submit now with your ED. And by now I mean now so that your contract arrives tomorrow. On the almost nonexistent chance you do get rejected this will allow you to submit ED at UMich because the 15 days will still be under UMich's deadline (November 1, iirc). On top of that you will have a possible chance to submit ED at GULC after Michigan if UMich returns your decision before GULC's deadline (December 15, iirc).

Long story short. Your UVa ED contract should be in the mail and you should be part of the class of 2014 before the month ends.


Thanks! If you had to give me a % at each school (ED), what would you give me? If you wouldn't mind including Cornell and Vanderbilt RD I'd be very appreciative.

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby bk1 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:46 pm

Ballparking via LSN, right now via ED:

UVa - 99%

UMich - 20% (Would have been 80% in 2 years ago)

GULC - 50%

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby RPK34 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:49 pm

Does anyone know how non-splitters do with UVA ED? I'm looking at a 3.75/169 right now, and would love to go to UVA.

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby bk1 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:50 pm

RPK34 wrote:Does anyone know how non-splitters do with UVA ED? I'm looking at a 3.75/169 right now, and would love to go to UVA.


Being below both medians is a death sentence at pretty much every school, ED or not.

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby StateSchoolSplitter » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:55 pm

bk1 wrote:Ballparking via LSN, right now via ED:

UVa - 99%

UMich - 20% (Would have been 80% in 2 years ago)

GULC - 50%


Most of the LSN people (2010 graph) are in-staters.

Any idea why GULC is lower than UVa?

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby bk1 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:02 pm

StateSchoolSplitter wrote:Most of the LSN people (2010 graph) are in-staters.

Any idea why GULC is lower than UVa?


It's roughly 50/50 residents and non-residents and it is clear that OOS'ers are not getting uniformly wl'ed or rejected. It is those below both medians that are getting waitlisted or rejected.

UVa ED is a lot more formulaic than GULC. Also UVa is more forgiving of low GPA's than GULC is. I also erred more on the side of caution because it is hard to tell how much of a difference GULC ED is when it isn't as well known as UVa's.

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby StateSchoolSplitter » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:06 pm

bk1 wrote:
StateSchoolSplitter wrote:Most of the LSN people (2010 graph) are in-staters.

Any idea why GULC is lower than UVa?


It's roughly 50/50 residents and non-residents and it is clear that OOS'ers are not getting uniformly wl'ed or rejected. It is those below both medians that are getting waitlisted or rejected.

UVa ED is a lot more formulaic than GULC. Also UVa is more forgiving of low GPA's than GULC is. I also erred more on the side of caution because it is hard to tell how much of a difference GULC ED is when it isn't as well known as UVa's.


Should I visit CVille to hand deliver app and meet with admissions figures?

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby bk1 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:15 pm

StateSchoolSplitter wrote:Should I visit CVille to hand deliver app and meet with admissions figures?


Can't tell if you're kidding, :P, but that seems like a waste.

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Postby 005618502 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:16 pm

StateSchoolSplitter wrote:
bk1 wrote:
StateSchoolSplitter wrote:Most of the LSN people (2010 graph) are in-staters.

Any idea why GULC is lower than UVa?


It's roughly 50/50 residents and non-residents and it is clear that OOS'ers are not getting uniformly wl'ed or rejected. It is those below both medians that are getting waitlisted or rejected.

UVa ED is a lot more formulaic than GULC. Also UVa is more forgiving of low GPA's than GULC is. I also erred more on the side of caution because it is hard to tell how much of a difference GULC ED is when it isn't as well known as UVa's.


Should I visit CVille to hand deliver app and meet with admissions figures?


Actually dont apply to UVA because if you were in one of my classes and asked questions like this i might kill myself. Why are you asking the same thing a million times? what is wrong with u! wow apply to UVA ED otherwise you probably wont get into a T14 except maybe Cornell. No u dont need to rush there and "talk to the dean" or hand turn it in. They dont care what you look like, just mail it in like everyone else

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby bk1 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:18 pm

jt1341 wrote:Actually dont apply to UVA because if you were in one of my classes and asked questions like this i might kill myself. Why are you asking the same thing a million times? what is wrong with u! wow apply to UVA ED otherwise you probably wont get into a T14 except maybe Cornell. No u dont need to rush there and "talk to the dean" or hand turn it in. They dont care what you look like, just mail it in like everyone else


You could spend from now till eternity ranting at each of the neurotic posts/posters on TLS and you still wouldn't have responded to all of them.

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby StateSchoolSplitter » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:20 pm

jt1341 wrote:
StateSchoolSplitter wrote:
bk1 wrote:
StateSchoolSplitter wrote:Most of the LSN people (2010 graph) are in-staters.

Any idea why GULC is lower than UVa?


It's roughly 50/50 residents and non-residents and it is clear that OOS'ers are not getting uniformly wl'ed or rejected. It is those below both medians that are getting waitlisted or rejected.

UVa ED is a lot more formulaic than GULC. Also UVa is more forgiving of low GPA's than GULC is. I also erred more on the side of caution because it is hard to tell how much of a difference GULC ED is when it isn't as well known as UVa's.


Should I visit CVille to hand deliver app and meet with admissions figures?


Actually dont apply to UVA because if you were in one of my classes and asked questions like this i might kill myself. Why are you asking the same thing a million times? what is wrong with u! wow apply to UVA ED otherwise you probably wont get into a T14 except maybe Cornell. No u dont need to rush there and "talk to the dean" or hand turn it in. They dont care what you look like, just mail it in like everyone else


If you were in one of my classes, I know I'd wouldn't be at UVa, let alone a ranked school.

Anyway, I got the idea from someone on LSN who had very, very similar #s and creds. He visited the city, turned in his app, did some stuff around town (it's too bad Buddhist shut down) and was called back into the dean's office later in the day to get admitted.
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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby bk1 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:21 pm

StateSchoolSplitter wrote:Anyway, I got the idea from someone on LSN who had very, very similar #s and creds. He visited the city, turned in his app, did some stuff around town (it's too bad Buddhist shut down) and was called back into the dean's office later in the day to get admitted.


That guy is an anomaly, it isn't going to change anything considering just how formulaic UVa is about ED.

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby StateSchoolSplitter » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:24 pm

bk1 wrote:
StateSchoolSplitter wrote:Anyway, I got the idea from someone on LSN who had very, very similar #s and creds. He visited the city, turned in his app, did some stuff around town (it's too bad Buddhist shut down) and was called back into the dean's office later in the day to get admitted.


That guy is an anomaly, it isn't going to change anything considering just how formulaic UVa is about ED.


Just out of curiousity, what's the formula? IN: at both medians or above at both or above med. LSAT and below GPA?

DINGED: below medium at both or median GPA and below median LSAT?

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Re: 3.1/173 - UVa ED? Suggestions?

Postby bk1 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:28 pm

StateSchoolSplitter wrote:Just out of curiousity, what's the formula? IN: at both medians or above at both or above med. LSAT and below GPA?


It's been pretty clear so far that 170+ or 3.85+ is in, though at a certain split this isn't necessarily secure. Probably sub-160 LSAT or sub-3 GPA starts to be uncertain.




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