Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby bk1 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:18 pm

m3taphysician wrote:I would 100% apply to Northwestern law, but I heard they don't admit students right out of undergrad.


Unlikely without a 1+ years of w/e, though I have heard that the few students who do make it in without it are often the ones who are a chunk above both medians.

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby CanadianWolf » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:19 pm

About 5% of last year's class was straight from undergraduate school at NU law. Rumor is that these students had very high numbers & could have gone to Top 6 law schools if asked to defer for a year.

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby m3taphysician » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:23 pm

Do any of you think it would be worthwhile for me to apply to Northwestern Law out of undergrad? I feel as if my numbers don't quite make the cut to make it without work experience.

Would it be fair to say that between Penn and Northwestern, Penn is clearly the stronger school? Or is it close? Chicago is an amazing city, so if the two schools are comparable that might be a hard decision.

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby bk1 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:26 pm

m3taphysician wrote:Do any of you think it would be worthwhile for me to apply to Northwestern Law out of undergrad? I feel as if my numbers don't quite make the cut to make it without work experience.

Would it be fair to say that between Penn and Northwestern, Penn is clearly the stronger school? Or is it close? Chicago is an amazing city, so if the two schools are comparable that might be a hard decision.


NU definitely holds its own in placement power despite being a bit lower ranked, but I would bet a lot of this has to do with their preference for w/e. Someone said at one point that it would suck to be one of the few people at NU without w/e when doing interviews at OCI because everybody else has w/e. That makes sense but I am not sure exactly how true it is.

Earlier there was a post of the numbers for people accepted at NU that didn't have w/e and usually they were 175+, iirc.

I would say due to lack of w/e that you have a better shot at UPenn.

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby CanadianWolf » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:28 pm

Penn is ranked higher & offers great connections to NYC law firms. Northwestern was this year's number one law school for placement into the nation's largest 250 law firms according to the National Law Journal's Go-To-Law-Schools annual survey.
Prof. Leitner of the Univ. of Texas law school ranks Northwestern's faculty as sixth or seventh among the nation's law schools & Penn ranks about 14th. Depends what you are seeking. If you want academia, then Yale, Stanford & Harvard and Chicago are the best options.
Northwestern's class sections are much smaller than all but Yale & Stanford among the top 14 law schools.
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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby whymeohgodno » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:29 pm

You won't get into NU with your numbers without WE.

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby m3taphysician » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:34 pm

I might be getting a bit specific here, but do any of you happen to know which law schools are particularly strong for Antitrust? I heard Chicago is the best.

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby CanadianWolf » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:35 pm

Not sure if this is still accurate, but Chicago's reputation was/is for teaching law from an economics perspective.
I suspect that for the next three years, at least, that Chicago's law school admissions will be much more competitive as the school recently received a $10 million grant for 20 full tuition 3 year scholarships per year for next three years (60 three year full tuition scholarships in total).

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby tas817 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:42 pm

This post making me realize how sad I am I don't have the numbers to justify going to school in Chicago. :cry:

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby 09042014 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:53 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:You won't get into NU with your numbers without WE.


3.91/171? Has a shot. That is above both medians and above the 75% GPA.

Though Penn vs Northwestern is probably a battle Penn would win ITE. Though the placement difference is pretty minimal.

Apply to both and see if you get in/ get money.

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby 005618502 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:49 am

Well now that we cleared up some of that.

IMO you are going to be in a great spot if you can score a 170+ you will be in at some T14's and some of those will be in a city so you are lookin good. Do be careful of going to a lower ranked school and planning on doing better there, that has hurt others i know.

In any case come back after an LSAT has been taken, and you can get a real idea of where you will be going! haha or just use LSN/predictor

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby im_blue » Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:02 am

CanadianWolf wrote:About 5% 2% of last year's class was straight from undergraduate school at NU law. Rumor is that these students had very high numbers & could have gone to Top 6 law schools if asked to defer for a year.


http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissions/profile/

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby Bankhead » Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:06 am

it's ivy trolling -- he wants to go to an ivy.

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby 09042014 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:24 pm

im_blue wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:About 5% 2% of last year's class was straight from undergraduate school at NU law. Rumor is that these students had very high numbers & could have gone to Top 6 law schools if asked to defer for a year.


http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissions/profile/


This year is more like 5%.

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby IAFG » Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:32 pm

im_blue wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:About 5% 2% of last year's class was straight from undergraduate school at NU law. Rumor is that these students had very high numbers & could have gone to Top 6 law schools if asked to defer for a year.


http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissions/profile/

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby dissonance1848 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:46 pm

OP with a 3.9 needs as an LSAT as possible. If its 170, Gtown and Cornell in. 171, Duke, NU, UVA, Michigan in. 172-173, NYU in. 173-175 CLS UofC in. 175 + chance at HYS. Best shot at HLS. 177+ chance at SLS and YLS.

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby Patriot1208 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:00 pm

dissonance1848 wrote:OP with a 3.9 needs as an LSAT as possible. If its 170, Gtown and Cornell in. 171, Duke, NU, UVA, Michigan in. 172-173, NYU in. 173-175 CLS UofC in. 175 + chance at HYS. Best shot at HLS. 177+ chance at SLS and YLS.


lol, a 3.9 and a 170 puts him in A LOT more schools than GTOWN and cornell. He's likely in Duke, UVA, Michigan, and maybe even penn with a 3.9 170. You say crap in every thread that simply isn't true. In face a 171 could get him into NYU and a 172 will likely get him into CC.

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby m3taphysician » Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:40 pm

I just took PT58 and got a 169. That's my third 169 in the last month.

If I stumble and get a 169 on the LSAT, would I have a shot at Chicago/NYU if I applied ED? I would plan to take it again anyway, but just curious what you guys think.

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Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell

Postby vsl89 » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:44 pm

m3taphysician wrote:I just took PT58 and got a 169. That's my third 169 in the last month.

If I stumble and get a 169 on the LSAT, would I have a shot at Chicago/NYU if I applied ED? I would plan to take it again anyway, but just curious what you guys think.


Check out LSN for apps to NYU for people 3.9X + 169 -- like 7/9 were admitted. Since NYU is a large school and numbers driven, decisions tend to be similar for people with similar numbers, unlike say YLS or Penn. Given that, I think you'd have a decent shot at NYU w/ 169 and a much better shot were you to ED. At Chicago, things look much less promising.




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