3.0 top tier liberal arts / 163

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wenagringo
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3.0 top tier liberal arts / 163

Postby wenagringo » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:19 am

- went to top tier new england liberal arts school
- only 3.0 gpa - I plan on writing an addendum explaining that I was pretty unfocussed in college, etc...
- 163 lsat
- 2 years out w/ interesting work experience (in south america) for whatever it's worth...

Any thoughts on my chances at UColorado-Boulder, UC Davis, Brooklyn, Cardozo, GW, American...? Do I have any shot or am I out of luck?

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Re: 3.0 top tier liberal arts / 163

Postby sophia.olive » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:24 am

School Lower Bound (95%) Prob. Estimate Upper Bound (95%)
Harvard University 0 0 0
New York University 0 0 0.0001
Stanford University 0 0.0001 0.0002
University of California Berkeley 0 0.0003 0.0005
Yale University 0 0.0005 0.0011
Columbia University 0.0006 0.0013 0.0021
Georgetown University 0.0010 0.0019 0.0029
Duke University 0.0033 0.0065 0.0096
University of California Los Angeles 0.0031 0.0067 0.0103
University of Southern California 0.0033 0.0081 0.0129
University of Texas Austin 0.0036 0.0081 0.0126
Boston University 0.0037 0.0084 0.0132
University of Chicago 0.0044 0.0087 0.0129
University of Virginia 0.0049 0.0088 0.0128
Cornell University 0.0072 0.0154 0.0237
George Washington University 0.0129 0.0202 0.0275
Northwestern University 0.0116 0.0203 0.0291
University of Pennsylvania 0.0171 0.0275 0.0379
Vanderbilt University 0.0148 0.0276 0.0404
Fordham University 0.0189 0.0330 0.0472
University of Washington 0.0152 0.0369 0.0585
Boston College 0.0327 0.0484 0.0642
University of North Carolina Chapel Hill 0.0233 0.0505 0.0776
University of Michigan Ann Arbor 0.0389 0.0541 0.0693
University of California Hastings 0.0383 0.0616 0.0848
University of California Davis 0.0342 0.0623 0.0904
Washington and Lee University 0.0471 0.0790 0.1108
0.0766 0.1168 0.1569
College of William and Mary 0.0900 0.1217 0.1533
George Mason University 0.1533 0.1934 0.2335
University of Georgia 0.1211 0.2043 0.2875
Washington University in St Louis 0.1531 0.2082 0.2633
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign 0.1774 0.2311 0.2848
Brigham Young University 0.0874 0.2362 0.3851
University of Colorado Boulder 0.1674 0.2406 0.3138
University of Minnesota Twin Cities 0.1668 0.2441 0.3215
University of Maryland 0.1934 0.2618 0.3301
University of Wisconsin Madison 0.2249 0.2884 0.3518
University of Hawaii 0.1639 0.3425 0.5211
University of Utah 0.2287 0.3630 0.4972
American University 0.3613 0.4032 0.4452
Cardozo-Yeshiva University 0.3340 0.4036 0.4733
University of Montana 0.1523 0.4076 0.6630
University of Arizona 0.3044 0.4105 0.5167
University of Iowa 0.3224 0.4122 0.5020
Wake Forest University 0.3375 0.4210 0.5044
University of Florida 0.4025 0.4914 0.5802
Ohio State University 0.4053 0.4996 0.5938
University of New Mexico 0.3200 0.5216 0.7231
Southern Methodist University 0.4238 0.5247 0.6257

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St.Remy
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Re: 3.0 top tier liberal arts / 163

Postby St.Remy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:29 am

wenagringo wrote:- went to top tier new england liberal arts school
- only 3.0 gpa - I plan on writing an addendum explaining that I was pretty unfocussed in college, etc...
- 163 lsat
- 2 years out w/ interesting work experience (in south america) for whatever it's worth...

Any thoughts on my chances at UColorado-Boulder, UC Davis, Brooklyn, Cardozo, GW, American...? Do I have any shot or am I out of luck?


I don't really know what the crap olive just posted is, but I'd say of the schools you listed you have an okay shot at American, a slim shot at Cardozo, and no shot at any of the other ones. I'm assuming that you are not a URM. The GPA addendum likely won't matter, especially if your reason for bad grades was being "unfocused." WE probably won't give you much of a boost.

Since Cardozo and American are both mediocre schools in saturated legal markets I would be hesitant to seriously consider either. If you are set on law school retake the LSAT and improve your score.

Edit: I realize now why olive's post seemed so bizarre to me, skype reads several of the addresses as telephone numbers and makes the list look like a bizarre hodgepodge of information. Also the formatting hurts my brain.

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Re: 3.0 top tier liberal arts / 163

Postby bk1 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:51 am

Retake the LSAT if you want to get into those schools or better. You are a splitter with a GPA far below their median so you need to get your LSAT as high as possible above their median.

Top tier school won't matter. A GPA addendum saying you were unfocused won't matter. In fact you shouldn't write a GPA addendum unless it is a real reason like serious illness, death in the family, etc. Your W/E won't matter unless you get a 172+ and are applying to Northwestern.

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Re: 3.0 top tier liberal arts / 163

Postby merichard87 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:41 pm

bk1 wrote:Retake the LSAT if you want to get into those schools or better. You are a splitter with a GPA far below their median so you need to get your LSAT as high as possible above their median.

Top tier school won't matter. A GPA addendum saying you were unfocused won't matter. In fact you shouldn't write a GPA addendum unless it is a real reason like serious illness, death in the family, etc. Your W/E won't matter unless you get a 172+ and are applying to Northwestern.


Do not write an addendum about some BS. It only makes you look whiny and immature.




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