Good softs?

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Good softs?

Postby wannagotolaw » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:41 pm

I keep hearing everyone refer to these... what are considered good softs? great softs?

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Re: Good softs?

Postby 2ofspades » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:43 pm

If you tell us what yours are, we'll tell you whether they're good or not. :)
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Re: Good softs?

Postby bk1 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:43 pm

Great: Nobel Prize, Emmy, Olympic Medal, etc

Good: Rhodes Scholar, Publish Novelist, War Veteran, D1 Athlete, Founder of a Company, etc


At least that's how I see it.

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Re: Good softs?

Postby wannagotolaw » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:00 pm

I have a self published politics book
double major (chinese /politics)
Head RA
paid political consultant
DIII track all american

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Re: Good softs?

Postby sophia.olive » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:01 pm

[quote="wannagotolaw" I have a self published politics book
double major (chinese /politics)
Head RA
paid political consultant
DIII track all american[/quote]
average
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Re: Good softs?

Postby oshberg28 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:01 pm

bk1 wrote:Great: Nobel Prize, Emmy, Olympic Medal, etc

Good: Rhodes Scholar, Publish Novelist, War Veteran, D1 Athlete, Founder of a Company, etc


At least that's how I see it.


Dang, how many applicants would have "good" or "great" softs then? I think the question should be restructured to ask "what are considered above average softs?" - would your standards change?

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Re: Good softs?

Postby 2ofspades » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:02 pm

sophia.olive wrote:
wannagotolaw wrote:I have a self published politics book
double major (chinese /politics)
Head RA
paid political consultant
DIII track all american

average

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Re: Good softs?

Postby wannagotolaw » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:05 pm

with a 172 and 3.53, where should I be looking to apply this cycle?

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Re: Good softs?

Postby sophia.olive » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:06 pm

wannagotolaw wrote:with a 172 and 3.53, where should I be looking to apply this cycle?

Use the calculators. Lawschoolcalculator.com lawschoolpredictor.com
I would guess ccn down.

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Re: Good softs?

Postby 2ofspades » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:11 pm

T14 minus HYS. Michigan if you want $$.

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Re: Good softs?

Postby JazzOne » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:13 pm

oshberg28 wrote:
bk1 wrote:Great: Nobel Prize, Emmy, Olympic Medal, etc

Good: Rhodes Scholar, Publish Novelist, War Veteran, D1 Athlete, Founder of a Company, etc


At least that's how I see it.


Dang, how many applicants would have "good" or "great" softs then? I think the question should be restructured to ask "what are considered above average softs?" - would your standards change?

I think bk1 has it about right.

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Re: Good softs?

Postby St.Remy » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:01 am

wannagotolaw wrote:I have a self published politics book
double major (chinese /politics)
Head RA
paid political consultant
DIII track all american


This could be a good soft if the book sold well, or is well known for some other reason. A few years back the author of "Prozac Nation" got into Yale, where if not for her book she wouldn't have had a prayer.

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Re: Good softs?

Postby kazu » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:18 am

Someone on TLS defined it as "good = got your name in the newspapers. Otherwise, it doesn't matter." I definitely agree with that.

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Re: Good softs?

Postby sophia.olive » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:31 am

This is completely unsubstantiated. But i think that people that have numbers for the t14 are probably on average a little more driven, and probably have comparable softs, meaning those softs won't distinguish you. For you, and most of us, it will be a numbers game.

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Re: Good softs?

Postby Kswizzie » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:36 am

sophia.olive wrote:This is completely unsubstantiated. But i think that people that have numbers for the t14 are probably on average a little more driven, and probably have comparable softs, meaning those softs won't distinguish you. For you, and most of us, it will be a numbers game.


Idk about this I've met quite a few people at my school with nice LSAT scores and GPAs that straight did nothing in terms of extracurriculars/ internships in college... or just decided to do so junior or senior year when they knew they were applying to law school.

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Re: Good softs?

Postby Patriot1208 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:56 am

kazu wrote:Someone on TLS defined it as "good = got your name in the newspapers. Otherwise, it doesn't matter." I definitely agree with that.


Too broad, athletics get people in the newspaper all the time, and it's been widely established that even us D1 athletes don't get a bump.

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Re: Good softs?

Postby Kswizzie » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:18 pm

Really? I had a buddy who got into three t-14s two years ago with a 169 3.5ish gpa. I always assumed that it was a combination of his D1 athletics and combat experience w/ the Marines. But maybe it was just the USMC stuff.
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Re: Good softs?

Postby Pip » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:40 pm

wannagotolaw wrote:I have a self published politics book
double major (chinese /politics)
Head RA
paid political consultant
DIII track all american


Would say below average... nothing on there would warrant bringing it up. Especially the self published book, that basically says I wanted to write a book but I wasn't good enough to write one anyone would pay me for, yet I was so narcissistic that I paid someone to publish it... The double major really means little, what matters more is the school you got them from... Head RA, so that is what one step above hall monitor? The only thing you mentioned that you might get anything out of was the paid political consultant, but that would also depend on what the political position was you were working on and whether they won helping uncle Joe put out signs for a school board election wouldn't cut it but one could imagine someone twisting something like that into "paid political consultant".

What you listed isn't something that I would suggest anyone use.... the statement that it only mattered if it was in a newspaper is a pretty good rule to go by because it means the

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Re: Good softs?

Postby Patriot1208 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:44 pm

Kswizzie wrote:Really? I had a buddy who got into three t-14s two years ago with a 169 3.5ish gpa. I always assumed that it was a combination of his D1 athletics and combat experience w/ the Marines. But maybe it was just the USMC stuff.


A 169 3.5 could get someone with significant work experience (or Marines) into three t-14's most years.




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