What do I need (MVP)?

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OrdinarilySkilled
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What do I need (MVP)?

Postby OrdinarilySkilled » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:22 am

Right now I have a 3.7/168. I am retaking in Oct, which will be my third attempt.

Question is... What do I need in Oct. to have a pretty decent chance at MVP (especially P)?
I looked on LSN but its hard to tell where the cutoff is, and it doesn't really factor in who had retakes.
I have marginal softs except for some good WE.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby tylt13 » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:25 am

I got in to MVP with a 3.76/167. I'm in-state, which may have helped, and I also applied early (end of Sept.)

edit: I should mention, I only got in to one of MVP, but I also only applied to one :)

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby czelede » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:29 am

Your best bet at present is M, then V, then P.

For Penn, the GPA/LSAT median is 3.82/170, which puts you in the 25%-50% for both numbers. Not the best chance, but not the worst.

In general, my theory for when you're below the median in one number is that you compensate by being above in the other. An LSAT score in the 50%-75% should make you a safe candidate, and a 170 or 171 is all you need to hit this range. Anything above will make you a lock.

None of these schools care about retakes.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby thechee » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:29 am

170 and you're all set.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby thechee » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:33 am

If LSN is truly indicative of app trends, it's very possible that the median for Penn 2013 will rise to 171.

If the medians are 3.8+/171 for this next class, that would mean that I was accepted with 14k/yr at Penn with numbers below both medians. Lesson being, it's not just pure numbers.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby czelede » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:33 am

FWIW:

25% 50% 75%

M: 3.55 3.70 3.84
167 169 170

V: 3.54 3.85 3.92
165 170 171

P: 3.57 3.82 3.9
166 170 171

V is where the in-state bump really counts. M probably a little more-so than P, but I've found they don't really care about residency. Your best bet is at M because it's the only school you hit the median at with your GPA.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby pelmen74 » Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:54 pm

170/ 3.7 here, and shut out of MVP.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby im_blue » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:24 pm

You'll need a 170 for a nonzero shot at P and V, and a 169-170 for a decent chance at M.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby alirod12 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:40 am

I got waitlisted at M with a retake 173 and a 3.75, and in with >50% money at V and P. Odd.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby vanwinkle » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:47 am

You need to get 170+ to have a chance at V, unless you're in-state. Probably need 170+ for a good shot at M and P, too.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:48 am

I got into M with $ with a 3.9/168. Not a resident either.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby vanwinkle » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:49 am

blowhard wrote:I got into M with $ with a 3.9/168.

Yeah, but the 3.9 makes all the difference. Your GPA was above median, OP's is below. Thus OP needs an at/above median LSAT even though you didn't.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:50 am

vanwinkle wrote:
blowhard wrote:I got into M with $ with a 3.9/168.

Yeah, but the 3.9 makes all the difference. Your GPA was above median, OP's is below. Thus OP needs an at/above median LSAT even though you didn't.


Actually, OP is at median for M. He is below 75th.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby vanwinkle » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:52 am

blowhard wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:
blowhard wrote:I got into M with $ with a 3.9/168.

Yeah, but the 3.9 makes all the difference. Your GPA was above median, OP's is below. Thus OP needs an at/above median LSAT even though you didn't.


Actually, OP is at median for M. He is below 75th.

Wow, I thought the median for M was higher than that. My mistake; OP has a shot at Michigan then, possibly (assuming they don't manage to raise their median).

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby OrdinarilySkilled » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:20 am

Thanks for the responses. Should I apply early and then update with oct score, or does that risk a quick rejection. If I put that I am retaking will they hold off until I update, or is it all the same to just submit everything at once when I get the score?

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:38 am

OrdinarilySkilled wrote:Thanks for the responses. Should I apply early and then update with oct score, or does that risk a quick rejection. If I put that I am retaking will they hold off until I update, or is it all the same to just submit everything at once when I get the score?


If you apply and indicate you are taking in Oct they won't put you in the pile until then anyhow.

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Re: What do I need (MVP)?

Postby jawsthegreat » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:46 am

tylt13 wrote:I got in to MVP with a 3.76/167. I'm in-state, which may have helped, and I also applied early (end of Sept.)

edit: I should mention, I only got in to one of MVP, but I also only applied to one :)


You go to Michigan, hth




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