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Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:48 pm
by abarrios
Just wondering what my chances are at these three schools.

University of Houston
Baylor
SMU

I have a 164 LSAT with a 3.7 and I'm a Mexican male. My letters of recommendation are fairly good and I am currently working on my PS. The only downside to my application is that I have been arrested twice for theft. Once for a class B and the other for a class C midemeanor. I plan on writing an addendum.

So, what are my chances? Will I get into these schools? Any chances at scholarships?

Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:33 pm
by Grond
abarrios wrote:Just wondering what my chances are at these three schools.

University of Houston
Baylor
SMU

I have a 164 LSAT with a 3.7 and I'm a Mexican male. My letters of recommendation are fairly good and I am currently working on my PS. The only downside to my application is that I have been arrested twice for theft. Once for a class B and the other for a class C midemeanor. I plan on writing an addendum.

So, what are my chances? Will I get into these schools? Any chances at scholarships?

Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


http://lawschoolnumbers.com/adrib/jd

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:24 pm
by abarrios
Grond wrote:
abarrios wrote:Just wondering what my chances are at these three schools.

University of Houston
Baylor
SMU

I have a 164 LSAT with a 3.7 and I'm a Mexican male. My letters of recommendation are fairly good and I am currently working on my PS. The only downside to my application is that I have been arrested twice for theft. Once for a class B and the other for a class C midemeanor. I plan on writing an addendum.

So, what are my chances? Will I get into these schools? Any chances at scholarships?

Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


http://lawschoolnumbers.com/adrib/jd


Hey thanks for the help.

Law school numbers doesn't take past arrests into account, though. I'm wondering how that's going to affect my application.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:31 pm
by bofaem
apply to a lot of places, aim higher maybe also--with your stats and URM status you're a wildcard--also not knowing how schools will take the arrests id apply to as many places as possible

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:37 pm
by kalvano
abarrios wrote:Just wondering what my chances are at these three schools.

University of Houston
Baylor
SMU

I have a 164 LSAT with a 3.7 and I'm a Mexican male. My letters of recommendation are fairly good and I am currently working on my PS. The only downside to my application is that I have been arrested twice for theft. Once for a class B and the other for a class C midemeanor. I plan on writing an addendum.

So, what are my chances? Will I get into these schools? Any chances at scholarships?

Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.



Drop Baylor, you don't want to go there. Would you rather work in Houston or Dallas? SMU will probably bite big and give you a nice scholarship. Though you can also make it in to other very good schools as well. Perhaps even UT if they give a slight Mexican URM bump. If you get UT and want to work in Texas, go.

Not sure about T14, probably not very much chance at that. Do you want to work / live in Texas? If so, UT is the best choice, and then it breaks down by city.

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:47 pm
by Thirteen
abarrios wrote:
Grond wrote:
abarrios wrote:Just wondering what my chances are at these three schools.

University of Houston
Baylor
SMU

I have a 164 LSAT with a 3.7 and I'm a Mexican male. My letters of recommendation are fairly good and I am currently working on my PS. The only downside to my application is that I have been arrested twice for theft. Once for a class B and the other for a class C midemeanor. I plan on writing an addendum.

So, what are my chances? Will I get into these schools? Any chances at scholarships?

Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


http://lawschoolnumbers.com/adrib/jd


Hey thanks for the help, douche bag.

Law school numbers doesn't take past arrests into account. I'm wondering how that's going to affect my application.

Anyone else have any thoughts?


Calling someone a douchebag won't encourage other posters to offer advice, so I'd probably tone it down a bit. With your numbers, you have a competitive shot at SMU.

Check your PM's.

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:00 pm
by osalinas44
That's funny yeah that guy is a douche. I hope you get in to whichever school you want. As long as you explain how you have matured you should be good. Yeah a 164 is no joke. Good luck. Are you a resident?
abarrios wrote:
Grond wrote:
abarrios wrote:Just wondering what my chances are at these three schools.

University of Houston
Baylor
SMU

I have a 164 LSAT with a 3.7 and I'm a Mexican male. My letters of recommendation are fairly good and I am currently working on my PS. The only downside to my application is that I have been arrested twice for theft. Once for a class B and the other for a class C midemeanor. I plan on writing an addendum.

So, what are my chances? Will I get into these schools? Any chances at scholarships?

Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


http://lawschoolnumbers.com/adrib/jd


Hey thanks for the help, douche bag.

Law school numbers doesn't take past arrests into account. I'm wondering how that's going to affect my application.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:03 pm
by osalinas44
Thirteen wrote:
abarrios wrote:
Grond wrote:
abarrios wrote:Just wondering what my chances are at these three schools.

University of Houston
Baylor
SMU

I have a 164 LSAT with a 3.7 and I'm a Mexican male. My letters of recommendation are fairly good and I am currently working on my PS. The only downside to my application is that I have been arrested twice for theft. Once for a class B and the other for a class C midemeanor. I plan on writing an addendum.

So, what are my chances? Will I get into these schools? Any chances at scholarships?

Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


http://lawschoolnumbers.com/adrib/jd


Hey thanks for the help, douche bag.

Law school numbers doesn't take past arrests into account. I'm wondering how that's going to affect my application.

Anyone else have any thoughts?


Calling someone a douchebag won't encourage other posters to offer advice, so I'd probably tone it down a bit. With your numbers, you have a competitive shot at SMU.

Check your PM's.


competitive? at SMU? He's pretty much in as long as he doesn't screw up the application to SMU. Your such a DOUCHE!!!

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:13 pm
by catharsis
you're in all at all of them. the guy who posted the LSN link for you was trying to be helpful- he posted a specific link to a specific user that has the same stats as you do pretty much. a good addendum and you'll be fine.

best of luck to you OP!

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:50 pm
by Thirteen
osalinas44 wrote:
Thirteen wrote:
abarrios wrote:


Hey thanks for the help, douche bag.

Law school numbers doesn't take past arrests into account. I'm wondering how that's going to affect my application.

Anyone else have any thoughts?


Calling someone a douchebag won't encourage other posters to offer advice, so I'd probably tone it down a bit. With your numbers, you have a competitive shot at SMU.

Check your PM's.


competitive? at SMU? He's pretty much in as long as he doesn't screw up the application to SMU. Your such a DOUCHE!!!


:roll:

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:49 pm
by abarrios
kalvano wrote:
abarrios wrote:Just wondering what my chances are at these three schools.

University of Houston
Baylor
SMU

I have a 164 LSAT with a 3.7 and I'm a Mexican male. My letters of recommendation are fairly good and I am currently working on my PS. The only downside to my application is that I have been arrested twice for theft. Once for a class B and the other for a class C midemeanor. I plan on writing an addendum.

So, what are my chances? Will I get into these schools? Any chances at scholarships?

Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.



Drop Baylor, you don't want to go there. Would you rather work in Houston or Dallas? SMU will probably bite big and give you a nice scholarship. Though you can also make it in to other very good schools as well. Perhaps even UT if they give a slight Mexican URM bump. If you get UT and want to work in Texas, go.

Not sure about T14, probably not very much chance at that. Do you want to work / live in Texas? If so, UT is the best choice, and then it breaks down by city.


Yea I am from Houston and I would like to practice law there someday. Why does everyone say to drop Baylor?

And yea, I plan on applying to UT as well as a bunch of T-14 schools for fun. I am expecting my cycle to be unpredictable because of my record and the fact that I am Mexican.

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:03 pm
by Ty Webb
abarrios wrote:
kalvano wrote:
abarrios wrote:Just wondering what my chances are at these three schools.

University of Houston
Baylor
SMU

I have a 164 LSAT with a 3.7 and I'm a Mexican male. My letters of recommendation are fairly good and I am currently working on my PS. The only downside to my application is that I have been arrested twice for theft. Once for a class B and the other for a class C midemeanor. I plan on writing an addendum.

So, what are my chances? Will I get into these schools? Any chances at scholarships?

Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.



Drop Baylor, you don't want to go there. Would you rather work in Houston or Dallas? SMU will probably bite big and give you a nice scholarship. Though you can also make it in to other very good schools as well. Perhaps even UT if they give a slight Mexican URM bump. If you get UT and want to work in Texas, go.

Not sure about T14, probably not very much chance at that. Do you want to work / live in Texas? If so, UT is the best choice, and then it breaks down by city.


Yea I am from Houston and I would like to practice law there someday. Why does everyone say to drop Baylor?

And yea, I plan on applying to UT as well as a bunch of T-14 schools for fun. I am expecting my cycle to be unpredictable because of my record and the fact that I am Mexican.


1) Waco is a hell hole that's both ugly and boring. It's also full of wacko religious fanatics.

2) Biglaw placement out of Baylor is a struggle, due mostly to the fact that it's not in a major market and pulls up the rear behind UT, then Houston/SMU.

3) They have grade deflation so severe that the dean actually sends out a personalized note with each resume stating why GPAs at Baylor are lower. (This makes no sense to me; why put your students at a disadvantage?)

4) While the rest of 3Ls will be out networking, making connections in the legal community, and enjoying their last semester of law school, you'll be stuck doing 8 hours of work per day for "practice court". Considering when most good legal jobs are acquired, this is an unnecessary pain in the ass for students.

5) Baylor fosters a gunnerish/cutthroat atmosphere that sucks to be a part of. This probably has to do with job placement issues, so students know they need to outgun classmates to have a shot.

6) Baylor is incredibly expensive for what it is.

7) Waco is a hell hole that's both ugly and boring.

HTH

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:05 pm
by yo!
abarrios wrote:
Grond wrote:
abarrios wrote:Just wondering what my chances are at these three schools.

University of Houston
Baylor
SMU

I have a 164 LSAT with a 3.7 and I'm a Mexican male. My letters of recommendation are fairly good and I am currently working on my PS. The only downside to my application is that I have been arrested twice for theft. Once for a class B and the other for a class C midemeanor. I plan on writing an addendum.

So, what are my chances? Will I get into these schools? Any chances at scholarships?

Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


http://lawschoolnumbers.com/adrib/jd


Hey thanks for the help, douche bag.

Law school numbers doesn't take past arrests into account. I'm wondering how that's going to affect my application.

Anyone else have any thoughts?


um...okai.....yeah......fuck you buddy :idea:

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:11 pm
by jdhonest
Please don't go to UT...Austin has enough property theft crimes.

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:13 pm
by abarrios
jdhonest wrote:Please don't go to UT...Austin has enough property theft crimes.


Lol, I completely probation succesfully and havent been in any trouble in over three years. I was just an idiot in my first year of college

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:19 pm
by Richie Tenenbaum
Insulting people who are trying to help is a good way to discourage other people from helping.

The arrests may make your cycle even more unpredictable, but I would think you're in good shape at all three. UT is probably a decent reach.

And apply to Baylor even if you would not want to necessarily attend there. If you get into both Baylor and SMU but only get money from Baylor, you can use that to try and leverage money out of SMU.

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:27 pm
by yo!
abarrios wrote:
jdhonest wrote:Please don't go to UT...Austin has enough property theft crimes.


Lol, I completely probation succesfully and havent been in any trouble in over three years. I was just an idiot in my first year of college



you still come off this way....hth

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:46 pm
by abarrios
Whatever.

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:50 pm
by Ty Webb
abarrios wrote:Whatever.


Are you planning on coming across as a petulant child in your apps? If so, this could impact your cycle.

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:54 pm
by abarrios
Ty Webb wrote:
abarrios wrote:Whatever.


Are you planning on coming across as a petulant child in your apps? If so, this could impact your cycle.


Not at all. I'm almost done writing my personal statement, maybe you could check it just in case?

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:55 pm
by yo!
abarrios wrote:
Ty Webb wrote:
abarrios wrote:Whatever.


Are you planning on coming across as a petulant child in your apps? If so, this could impact your cycle.


Not at all. I'm almost done writing my personal statement, maybe you could check it just in case?


post it up....I'll have memegenerator waiting :mrgreen:

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:49 pm
by kalvano
Richie Tenenbaum wrote:If you get into both Baylor and SMU but only get money from Baylor, you can use that to try and leverage money out of SMU.



No, you can't. SMU seems to give their best shot initially.

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:58 pm
by TCScrutinizer
Ty Webb wrote:
abarrios wrote:
kalvano wrote:
abarrios wrote:Just wondering what my chances are at these three schools.

University of Houston
Baylor
SMU

I have a 164 LSAT with a 3.7 and I'm a Mexican male. My letters of recommendation are fairly good and I am currently working on my PS. The only downside to my application is that I have been arrested twice for theft. Once for a class B and the other for a class C midemeanor. I plan on writing an addendum.

So, what are my chances? Will I get into these schools? Any chances at scholarships?

Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.



Drop Baylor, you don't want to go there. Would you rather work in Houston or Dallas? SMU will probably bite big and give you a nice scholarship. Though you can also make it in to other very good schools as well. Perhaps even UT if they give a slight Mexican URM bump. If you get UT and want to work in Texas, go.

Not sure about T14, probably not very much chance at that. Do you want to work / live in Texas? If so, UT is the best choice, and then it breaks down by city.


Yea I am from Houston and I would like to practice law there someday. Why does everyone say to drop Baylor?

And yea, I plan on applying to UT as well as a bunch of T-14 schools for fun. I am expecting my cycle to be unpredictable because of my record and the fact that I am Mexican.


1) Waco is a hell hole that's both ugly and boring. It's also full of wacko religious fanatics.

2) Biglaw placement out of Baylor is a struggle, due mostly to the fact that it's not in a major market and pulls up the rear behind UT, then Houston/SMU.

3) They have grade deflation so severe that the dean actually sends out a personalized note with each resume stating why GPAs at Baylor are lower. (This makes no sense to me; why put your students at a disadvantage?)

4) While the rest of 3Ls will be out networking, making connections in the legal community, and enjoying their last semester of law school, you'll be stuck doing 8 hours of work per day for "practice court". Considering when most good legal jobs are acquired, this is an unnecessary pain in the ass for students.

5) Baylor fosters a gunnerish/cutthroat atmosphere that sucks to be a part of. This probably has to do with job placement issues, so students know they need to outgun classmates to have a shot.

6) Baylor is incredibly expensive for what it is.

7) Waco is a hell hole that's both ugly and boring.

HTH


180

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:49 pm
by Richie Tenenbaum
kalvano wrote:
Richie Tenenbaum wrote:If you get into both Baylor and SMU but only get money from Baylor, you can use that to try and leverage money out of SMU.



No, you can't. SMU seems to give their best shot initially.


Note bolded. And yes, you can. You cannot speak for certain on what schools he will and will not get offered a scholarship at...scholarships are even more unpredictable than admissions. URM status makes both admissions and scholarships even more unpredictable. Stop making such confident statements when all you have is educated guesses.

Re: Chances at University of Houston, Baylor, and SMU? 3.7/164

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:55 pm
by Thirteen
Richie Tenenbaum wrote:
kalvano wrote:
Richie Tenenbaum wrote:If you get into both Baylor and SMU but only get money from Baylor, you can use that to try and leverage money out of SMU.



No, you can't. SMU seems to give their best shot initially.


Note bolded. And yes, you can. You cannot speak for certain on what schools he will and will not get offered a scholarship at...scholarships are even more unpredictable than admissions. URM status makes both admissions and scholarships even more unpredictable. Stop making such confident statements when all you have is educated guesses.


SMU doesn't negotiate. I'll be there in the fall, and I tried to get extra money out of them the previous 2 cycles (09 and 10). In 09, I couldn't leverage a significant scholarship at a T30 into a dime from SMU. I'm a URM, btw.