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r6_philly
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Re: What's the hardest/easiest to get into YHS?

Postby r6_philly » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:53 am

So what's a good/safe GPA for a 170 at Stanford? I have't done much research on Stanford.

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Re: What's the hardest/easiest to get into YHS?

Postby acrossthelake » Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:03 am

r6_philly wrote:So what's a good/safe GPA for a 170 at Stanford? I have't done much research on Stanford.


Stanford's rather holistic, so softs are really important here. http://stanford.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats The best bet for LSAT of 170-180 is a GPA of 3.9 or above, though random sub-3.9 non-URMs occasionally get in. The extent to which one goes past 170, judging by several cycles on LSN, doesn't really seem to help you, and 3.9 seems to be their soft floor and 3.8 their hard floor.

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Re: What's the hardest/easiest to get into YHS?

Postby r6_philly » Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:20 am

Well I manage to bump my GPA up to a 3.92, so hopefully that will lead past a few candidates... My softs are my softs and they are unique so I don't know how they will be judged. This time around, my interest is a lot more focused and I have more accomplishments to back it up. Stanford, being the number insitution for my field, may view my resume more favorably, maybe... I don't think I expressed my focus and interests in law quite as clearly as I would now, so maybe my app will be received differently, especially now I am doing a respected PA masters. Well at least I hope all this helps.

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Re: What's the hardest/easiest to get into YHS?

Postby acrossthelake » Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:34 am

r6_philly wrote:Well I manage to bump my GPA up to a 3.92, so hopefully that will lead past a few candidates... My softs are my softs and they are unique so I don't know how they will be judged. This time around, my interest is a lot more focused and I have more accomplishments to back it up. Stanford, being the number insitution for my field, may view my resume more favorably, maybe... I don't think I expressed my focus and interests in law quite as clearly as I would now, so maybe my app will be received differently, especially now I am doing a respected PA masters. Well at least I hope all this helps.


Your chances are def. better than mine @ Stanford(by a long shot), and mine better than yours @ Harvard(though not by as much). I've personally resigned myself to CCN and consider my apps at YHS hail marys and a chance to be double-rejected by Stanford(they rejected me for UG as well, damn it, I *like* the west coast, and New England is cold.)

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Re: What's the hardest/easiest to get into YHS?

Postby mgoblue11 » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:06 am

So the consensus seems to be that HLS is all about numbers, SLS will overlook some poor numbers for great softs, and YLS scours your application for any possible reason not to admit you. But for those of us who are splitters - 177 lsat, 3.87 gpa - which of the HYS group value lsat more and which weigh gpa more heavily?

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Re: What's the hardest/easiest to get into YHS?

Postby mallard » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:07 am

mgoblue11 wrote:So the consensus seems to be that HLS is all about numbers, SLS will overlook some poor numbers for great softs, and YLS scours your application for any possible reason not to admit you. But for those of us who are splitters - 177 lsat, 3.87 gpa - which of the HYS group value lsat more and which weigh gpa more heavily?


I don't think that's the right characterization. Anyway, those numbers will probably get Harvard.

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Re: What's the hardest/easiest to get into YHS?

Postby romothesavior » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:01 am

mgoblue11 wrote:So the consensus seems to be that HLS is all about numbers, SLS will overlook some poor numbers for great softs, and YLS scours your application for any possible reason not to admit you. But for those of us who are splitters - 177 lsat, 3.87 gpa - which of the HYS group value lsat more and which weigh gpa more heavily?


What in the hell are you talking about?

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Re: What's the hardest/easiest to get into YHS?

Postby Cleareyes » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:07 am

romothesavior wrote:
mgoblue11 wrote:So the consensus seems to be that HLS is all about numbers, SLS will overlook some poor numbers for great softs, and YLS scours your application for any possible reason not to admit you. But for those of us who are splitters - 177 lsat, 3.87 gpa - which of the HYS group value lsat more and which weigh gpa more heavily?


What in the hell are you talking about?


I think the idea is taht someone who is above the 75th for LSAt but at or below the 50th for GPA is somehow a splitter, because taking them hurts the 50th a little. I don't really think it's a good use of the term but you can't always get what you want.

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Re: What's the hardest/easiest to get into YHS?

Postby BioEBear2010 » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:48 am

From all the evidence Y and S are more holistic and H is more numbers-driven.

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Re: What's the hardest/easiest to get into YHS?

Postby acrossthelake » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:02 pm

mgoblue11 wrote:So the consensus seems to be that HLS is all about numbers, SLS will overlook some poor numbers for great softs, and YLS scours your application for any possible reason not to admit you. But for those of us who are splitters - 177 lsat, 3.87 gpa - which of the HYS group value lsat more and which weigh gpa more heavily?


No, not quite.

Harvard still cares about great softs, it's just that due to its class size they have to let in ppl with great numbers and mediocre softs, so if you don't have amazing softs and have great numbers, your bet is best there.

SLS still demands high numbers, particularly GPA. It's just that with the LSAT they don't really value a difference between 174 and 179(which, actually, is fair, and something I've seen many people argue in favour of on TLS). Because of their smaller class size, they can afford to also emphasize softs as well, so people with 3.9+GPAs, 17x LSAT(where 174 vs 179 won't really matter), and great softs will be competitive here.

YLS is black-boxish because their process involves giving your app to 3 professors, having the professors rate you from 1-4, and then admitting ppl who can total like 11 or 12(sometimes 10), and who knows what those particular professors want, and applicants don't get the same 3 professors. With luxury of being #1, they can basically take the best of the best. To be competitive here, you want fantastic softs, a high GPA, a high LSAT, and luck on your side with the profs. Out of all schools you're applying to, the personal statement matters most here, because there's a chance one of the profs actually uses it.

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Re: What's the hardest/easiest to get into YHS?

Postby ibdancin » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:08 am

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Re: What's the hardest/easiest to get into YHS?

Postby Teoeo » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:27 am

Although HYS are going to be almost impossible, you can get Georgetown which is ranked 2!!! , way higher than Yale (9) and Stanford (18) - --LinkRemoved--




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