3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

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3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby hellojd » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:06 am

Hey all,

So, like many of the new topics on here I am a June '10 LSATer. Scored a 170, and am beating myself up about it (my PT average was 174-175). However, am pretty sure I am not going to retake.

Anyways, I was hoping you guys could not just evaluate me purely on the numbers, but also offer me any advice on getting into a t6 (HYS (Haha, humor me) or CCN). I DO realize my numbers suck for that tier, but I am hoping that the fact that I worked for a reputable strategy consulting firm for a year and will be doing microfinance / rural entrepreneurship work in India for a year under a prestigious fellowship (sponsored by former US president) will make me stand out a bit. Maybe not. For you all to judge lol.

Miscellaneous softs include top 20 UG, president of student Org, blah blah probably doesn't matter.

If t6 doesn't happen, do you guys see $$ for me at any t14? Unless something goes terribly wrong, I should at least get into most of the lower t14?

Sigh...

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby burtonrideclub » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:15 am

I think you would be in at NYU, maybe Columbia if you do ED.

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby hellojd » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:36 am

burtonrideclub wrote:I think you would be in at NYU, maybe Columbia if you do ED.


Thanks for the input.

Thought Id give this thread a polite BUMP since this forum has calmed down a bit since the June score release.

In terms of HYS, I realize I am probably a definite out at HY, but do you guys see me having a shot at Stanford, due to their emphasis on soft factors? And Im not terribly below their numbers at least, since my Lsat seems at median, and my GPA only about .03 below median.

Anyways, if you guys could give me a in / out / WL at the following thatd be awesome. Any tips for strengthening my app at the below schools would be especially appreciated. thanks for the help in advance.

Yale
Harvard
Stanford
Columbia
Chicago
NYU
Berkeley ($?)
Upenn ($?)

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby chopswithafist » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:07 pm

hellojd wrote:
Yale - out
Harvard - out
Stanford - out..maybe wl
Columbia -WL/in (in no wl if ed)
Chicago - WL
NYU - in
Berkeley ($?) - in
Upenn ($?) in $


just guesses

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby paratactical » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:15 pm

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby kaydish21 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:19 pm

I would definitely write the Why Penn optional essay. Seems to make a difference for a lot of applicants.

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby im_blue » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:01 am

I think you're about 50% at NYU, about 30% at Columbia/Chicago, and in at the lower T14. I wouldn't ED anywhere since you also have a small shot at Stanford and most likely money at several lower T14s.

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby garrett09 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:24 pm

my guesses..

Y- out
H- maybe wl
S- wl --> in? they say they care a lot if you have people write specific recs about stanford, ooo and aww over them, etc...

Co- wl -- > in
NYU - in
Ch- in

Berk- FR (faculty review... where they make you wait forever). then who knows (but they say softs matter here more)

Penn, UVa, Mich- in, possibly with some $$.

Duke, Georgetown, Northwestern, Cornell- obviously in, but I'd wager you'd get decent $ at at least one of these.

hope that's vaguely helpful. also, something i wish someone had told me: applying at schools that might give you $$ gives you a big of leverage to negotiate with the school you want. no need to drop below the t14 for you tho.

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby WestOfTheRest » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:38 pm

hellojd wrote:
burtonrideclub wrote:I think you would be in at NYU, maybe Columbia if you do ED.


Thanks for the input.

Thought Id give this thread a polite BUMP since this forum has calmed down a bit since the June score release.

In terms of HYS, I realize I am probably a definite out at HY, but do you guys see me having a shot at Stanford, due to their emphasis on soft factors? And Im not terribly below their numbers at least, since my Lsat seems at median, and my GPA only about .03 below median.

Anyways, if you guys could give me a in / out / WL at the following thatd be awesome. Any tips for strengthening my app at the below schools would be especially appreciated. thanks for the help in advance.

Yale: Out
Harvard: Out
Stanford: Out/WL
Columbia: Out/WL
Chicago: ???
NYU: Out/WL/In (Odds are waitlisted)
Berkeley ($?) Who knows
Upenn ($?)

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby thecilent » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:40 pm

Why would you not retake?

You are the exact example of when to retake .

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby acrossthelake » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:12 am

hellojd wrote:

Yale- Holistic, who knows
Harvard-Probably out, WL possibility
Stanford--Out/WL, maybe, they like softs
Columbia--WL
Chicago--WL
NYU--WL
Berkeley ($?)--Unsure
Upenn ($?)--In/WL. Toss in that Why Penn essay and probably In.

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby r6_philly » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:18 am

Cilent21 wrote:Why would you not retake?

You are the exact example of when to retake .


Haha I thought I would be the exact example of when to retake as well, but everyone EXCEPT 0L's adviced me to NOT retake...

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby paratactical » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:20 am

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby acrossthelake » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:21 am

r6_philly wrote:
Cilent21 wrote:Why would you not retake?

You are the exact example of when to retake .


Haha I thought I would be the exact example of when to retake as well, but everyone EXCEPT 0L's adviced me to NOT retake...


These people who told you not to = current/recent law students at law schools you want to attend?

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby WestOfTheRest » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:22 am

r6_philly wrote:
Cilent21 wrote:Why would you not retake?

You are the exact example of when to retake .


Haha I thought I would be the exact example of when to retake as well, but everyone EXCEPT 0L's adviced me to NOT retake...

Maybe you shouldn't listen to the people who "adviced" you. Just my 2 cents.

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby r6_philly » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:25 am

CastleRock wrote:Maybe you shouldn't listen to the people who "adviced" you. Just my 2 cents.


You mean don't listen to professors, advisors, college deans, corporate recruiters, practicing attorneys, and ivy law school grads?

I am thorough 8)

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby WestOfTheRest » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:33 am

r6_philly wrote:
CastleRock wrote:Maybe you shouldn't listen to the people who "adviced" you. Just my 2 cents.


You mean don't listen to professors, advisors, college deans, corporate recruiters, practicing attorneys, and ivy law school grads?

I am thorough 8)

No, I mean that with a 4.0 and a 170+ you should be able to spell advised.

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby Nom Sawyer » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:37 am

r6_philly wrote:
CastleRock wrote:Maybe you shouldn't listen to the people who "adviced" you. Just my 2 cents.


You mean don't listen to professors, advisors, college deans, corporate recruiters, practicing attorneys, and ivy law school grads?

I am thorough 8)


retakkeee... you're at the exact area where 3 to 5 more points will make all the difference

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby Mike12188 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:40 am

CastleRock wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
CastleRock wrote:Maybe you shouldn't listen to the people who "adviced" you. Just my 2 cents.


You mean don't listen to professors, advisors, college deans, corporate recruiters, practicing attorneys, and ivy law school grads?

I am thorough 8)

No, I mean that with a 4.0 and a 170+ you should be able to spell advised.


Really funny he didn't even get the call out.

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby r6_philly » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:42 am

Mike12188 wrote:
CastleRock wrote:No, I mean that with a 4.0 and a 170+ you should be able to spell advised.


Really funny he didn't even get the call out.


Apparently GPA and LSAT doesn't measure your spelling abilities ... I think it was designed that way.

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby r6_philly » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:45 am

Nom Sawyer wrote:retakkeee... you're at the exact area where 3 to 5 more points will make all the difference


You know, I know. I am stubborn, I want someone to acknowledge that I am special! lol

When I am ready to try for a 180, I will do it. In the mean time, I hope I get in with a lowly 170.

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby Grizz » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:47 am

paratactical wrote:The attorneys at a V10 firm I worked for told me I shouldn't retake a 161. Older attorneys have no concept of how the LSAT works now in admissions.


THIS

One of the attys. I worked for asked why I prepped because I was smart and could obviously walk in and make 95th%tile and go to UF like he did.

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby thecilent » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:17 am

r6_philly wrote:
Nom Sawyer wrote:retakkeee... you're at the exact area where 3 to 5 more points will make all the difference


You know, I know. I am stubborn, I want someone to acknowledge that I am special! lol

When I am ready to try for a 180, I will do it. In the mean time, I hope I get in with a lowly 170.


What school is it you are most interested in?

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby thecilent » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:20 am

r6_philly wrote:
CastleRock wrote:Maybe you shouldn't listen to the people who "adviced" you. Just my 2 cents.


You mean don't listen to professors, advisors, college deans, corporate recruiters, practicing attorneys, and ivy law school grads?

I am thorough 8)


Also, this is really bad. CR even put it in quotes lol

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Re: 3.84 / 170, good softs? - Any shot for t6?

Postby r6_philly » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:48 am

Cilent21 wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
Nom Sawyer wrote:retakkeee... you're at the exact area where 3 to 5 more points will make all the difference


You know, I know. I am stubborn, I want someone to acknowledge that I am special! lol

When I am ready to try for a 180, I will do it. In the mean time, I hope I get in with a lowly 170.


What school is it you are most interested in?


HYS, so according to TLS, it is lowly indeed.




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