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Geetar Man wrote:I am a senior, taking the October LSAT.

Take LSAT. Get score. Re-post question.

Your LSAT will determine where you can get in. Good luck.

EDIT: Also, when you re-post, be sure to say where (geographically) you want to work.

Thanks for the quick response. I know the LSAT will be my determining factor, but as my GPA stands, does it seem like I can still have a chance for something decent? Dont get me wrong, I am in no way, shape, or form to be picky at this point. But I dont want to pay 90+ for a crappy law school that wont do anything for me. Now, if they paid for it (or helped). That would be a different situation.

Geographically, I am ready to move anywhere for law school, as I have no ties down anywhere.

None of the stuff you listed matters. It's all your GPA/LSAT. Also, LSAC will use all your transcripts to re-compute your GPA, so it sounds like your listed GPA will be below a 3.0. The only chance you have a getting to a top14 school is to get 170+ on your LSAT (and then it's only the lower t14 MAYBE). A 165+ MIGHT be able to get you lower T30.

With that being said, any further discussion of your "chances" is a complete wast of time when you only have 1/2 of your application. If you are really curious go to http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/wp-co ... ograms.htm to assess your chances.

Only 2% of people get above a 170+ LSAT. Go study. Good luck.

LSAC includes all grades received prior to being awarded your first bachelors degree, so it sounds like your GPA will be around a 2.6/2.7. Use LawSchoolPredictor's LSDAS GPA calculator to calculate your gpa, being sure to include all classes taken, including schools you dropped out of and community college.

Put a lot of energy into doing well on the LSAT. A 2.7 will close most doors, but a really high LSAT score + URM status will reopen some of them.

Look, you have a shitty GPA. Take a practice LSAT or 2 under timed conditions WITH a bubble sheet. Calculate your scores. Come back later this week when you have done that. This thread can go a million ways depending on your score. 140 and you wont be getting jack shit. 180 and things are looking good for you. Do that, then we can talk.

mst wrote:Look, you have a shitty GPA. Take a practice LSAT or 2 under timed conditions WITH a bubble sheet. Calculate your scores. Come back later this week when you have done that. This thread can go a million ways depending on your score. 140 and you wont be getting jack shit. 180 and things are looking good for you. Do that, then we can talk.

Haha I hear that. I have read all of the horror stories and the same responses for people who post similar questions as I.
Like I said, I am taking my diagnostic on the 26th, so from there I will have an idea and I am no way trying to claim to go to a T10 law school, but obviously I would want the best school possible.

Does an addendum actually have any effect?? I mean, I see a small upward trend in my grades, but will that sort of trend be enough?

Thank you to everyone for your responses.

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Geetar Man wrote:Okay, So I just calculated my my LSDAS GPA and currently, it stands at a 2.65.

The best I can finish with is a 2.90.

How is that possible in two semesters?

I dominated my senior year and only improved my GPA about .04 or something.

Well, I just double checked it and I was actually incorrect. I can potentially get a 3.03 with 45 units of A's.

It seems possible because I am taking
Summer 2010 (current): 6 units (2 courses)
Fall 2010: 15 units (5 courses)
Winter session: 3 units (1 course)
Spring 2011: 15 units (5 courses)
Summer 2011: 6 units (2 courses)

If i did in fact get all A's, (possible yes, probable, no) then I can add 45 units of A's to my LSDAS.

Like I said, I am just shooting to stay around a 2.8 since my first year totally saddleback nut checked me in the face.

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Geetar Man wrote:Well, I just double checked it and I was actually incorrect. I can potentially get a 3.03 with 45 units of A's.

It seems possible because I am taking
Summer 2010 (current): 6 units (2 courses)
Fall 2010: 15 units (5 courses)
Winter session: 3 units (1 course)
Spring 2011: 15 units (5 courses)
Summer 2011: 6 units (2 courses)

If i did in fact get all A's, (possible yes, probable, no) then I can add 45 units of A's to my LSDAS.

Like I said, I am just shooting to stay around a 2.8 since my first year totally saddleback nut checked me in the face.

You can get a 3.03 after 45 units of A's, if you're applying for Fall 2012. If you're taking the October LSAT, it sounds like you're applying for Fall 2011, so your LSDAS GPA for admissions purposes can only improve by 21-24 units (after Fall or Winter). In that case, I would plan on ending up with a 2.7-2.8.

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Geetar Man wrote:Well, I just double checked it and I was actually incorrect. I can potentially get a 3.03 with 45 units of A's.

It seems possible because I am taking
Summer 2010 (current): 6 units (2 courses)
Fall 2010: 15 units (5 courses)
Winter session: 3 units (1 course)
Spring 2011: 15 units (5 courses)
Summer 2011: 6 units (2 courses)

If i did in fact get all A's, (possible yes, probable, no) then I can add 45 units of A's to my LSDAS.

Like I said, I am just shooting to stay around a 2.8 since my first year totally saddleback nut checked me in the face.

You can get a 3.03 after 45 units of A's, if you're applying for Fall 2012. If you're taking the October LSAT, it sounds like you're applying for Fall 2011, so your LSDAS GPA for admissions purposes can only improve by 21-24 units (after Fall or Winter). In that case, I would plan on ending up with a 2.7-2.8.

Credited. Unless you are applying for the next year, schools won't have time to consider your spring or summer grades, unless you're on a waitlist.

So if you're really hoping to apply with over a 3.0 (which I'm still skeptical of a .4 jump after 8 semesters of classes, but I'll take your word for it), you should consider taking a year or two off. You'll definitely still be sub-3.0 by the time you apply.

If you got a 170 (which is very hard to do), you could be looking at schools like Florida, Florida State, Utah, Arizona State, and maybe UC Davis and Indiana-Bloomington as reaches. Bring your GPA up as high as you can and study like hell for the LSAT, and you could have a shot at breaking the top 50.

Hey, My Gpa will be around a 2.9-3.0 but that aint stopping me from studying hard. I can't believe that only 2 % get a 170 or higher, very discouraging but if I do manage a 170 then I am hoping into get into Cinci with a lil $.

Getting the highest LSAT score possible is vital. If you could end up with a score in the high 160s or better you could end up at a top 30 (or even a top 20 school) with possibly money. Splitter cycles are always unpredictable, but the biggest piece of the puzzle is how high of a score you can get.

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Richie Tenenbaum wrote:Getting the highest LSAT score possible is vital. If you could end up with a score in the high 160s or better you could end up at a top 30 (or even a top 20 school) with possibly money. Splitter cycles are always unpredictable, but the biggest piece of the puzzle is how high of a score you can get.

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Thanks guys for the insight. This is the sort of feedback I am looking for!

I now understand why my gpa wont be as high as it can be due to the fact that I am applying for Fall of 2011 and my spring grades will not be considered. That actually takes a load off of my chest (no, not like that). Either way, I am glad I joined this forum. There are many people willing to give out their honest opinions and honesty is what I am looking for.

TO THE TOP!!!!! haha

Geetar Man wrote:

Richie Tenenbaum wrote:Getting the highest LSAT score possible is vital. If you could end up with a score in the high 160s or better you could end up at a top 30 (or even a top 20 school) with possibly money. Splitter cycles are always unpredictable, but the biggest piece of the puzzle is how high of a score you can get.

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Thanks guys for the insight. This is the sort of feedback I am looking for!

I now understand why my gpa wont be as high as it can be due to the fact that I am applying for Fall of 2011 and my spring grades will not be considered. That actually takes a load off of my chest (no, not like that). Either way, I am glad I joined this forum. There are many people willing to give out their honest opinions and honesty is what I am looking for.

TO THE TOP!!!!! haha

Keep in mind that schools will need to see an updated transcript before you matriculate and you are suppose to make sure LSAC has your most recent transcript. It's very unlikely that a school will rescind an offer as a result of a lowered GPA, but it's much nicer to be able to provide schools where you are on the waitlist with a raised GPA rather than a decrease in GPA.

Richie Tenenbaum wrote:

Geetar Man wrote:

Richie Tenenbaum wrote:Getting the highest LSAT score possible is vital. If you could end up with a score in the high 160s or better you could end up at a top 30 (or even a top 20 school) with possibly money. Splitter cycles are always unpredictable, but the biggest piece of the puzzle is how high of a score you can get.

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Thanks guys for the insight. This is the sort of feedback I am looking for!

I now understand why my gpa wont be as high as it can be due to the fact that I am applying for Fall of 2011 and my spring grades will not be considered. That actually takes a load off of my chest (no, not like that). Either way, I am glad I joined this forum. There are many people willing to give out their honest opinions and honesty is what I am looking for.

TO THE TOP!!!!! haha

Keep in mind that schools will need to see an updated transcript before you matriculate and you are suppose to make sure LSAC has your most recent transcript. It's very unlikely that a school will rescind an offer as a result of a lowered GPA, but it's much nicer to be able to provide schools where you are on the waitlist with a raised GPA rather than a decrease in GPA.

Very true! Its not like I was just going to totally blow off my last semester lol.