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3.84/170

Postby sjalpert » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:45 am

female, top 20 undergrad school, international relations/chinese double major. 3.84 gpa/170 lsat. should i be pretty set for most schools? what would my odds be for hys? what about columbia/nyu?

thanks!

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Re: 3.84/170

Postby Tautology » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:54 am

Judging from LSN, all five of those schools are stretches with those numbers. 170 is below median for all of them except Stanford, and your GPA is only median at HYS, though better at CN. Doesn't mean you won't get in any of those places, and I like the international relations/chinese double major, but I think your odds are low at HYS and only mediocre at CN.

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Re: 3.84/170

Postby byunbee » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:58 am

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/

http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/wp-content/uploads/Law-School-Predictor-Full-Time-Programs.htm

Y-rejected
H-waitlist/rejected
S-waitlist/? depends on LOR, PS, soft factors
C-waitlist/accepted - waitlist more likely
NYU-waitlist/accepted

I had pretty much the same numbers as you (3.9/169), but I only applied to Columbia out of those schools (and got put reserve), so take my post with a grain of salt.

Based on my experience and others on TLS, you will probably get a nice scholarship from somewhere in the lower half of the T14, and likely a full ride or close from T25.

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Re: 3.84/170

Postby Ragged » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:01 am

Almost same numbers as you. Results in profile. I got week softs though.

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Re: 3.84/170

Postby byunbee » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:04 am

Looking at your GPA and UG institution, you probably had the opportunity for some nice work/extracurricular experiences. If you played those factors up, you could help your chances a bit. But if you're dying to go these schools (no UChicago?) and can't accept anything less, then there's always the option of waiting and retaking the LSAT. I bet even a 2-3 point improvement would push you over the top at NYU and Columbia, at the least.

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Re: 3.84/170

Postby byunbee » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:06 am

Ragged wrote:Almost same numbers as you. Results in profile. I got week softs though.


damn, that is a brutal cycle. :cry:
i can't say that's the typical case for someone with your numbers, though.

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Re: 3.84/170

Postby sjalpert » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:08 am

If I were to raise my LSAT to the 173-175 range, would that have a huge impact?

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Re: 3.84/170

Postby Tautology » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:11 am

sjalpert wrote:If I were to raise my LSAT to the 173-175 range, would that have a huge impact?


Yes. You would have really good chances at Columbia and NYU. HYS still probably reaches though, although much more likely.

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Re: 3.84/170

Postby byunbee » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:12 am

sjalpert wrote:If I were to raise my LSAT to the 173-175 range, would that have a huge impact?


Yes, it would likely be a huge difference. You can double check on LSN, predictor, and the TLS charts. I think only one or two of those schools average LSATs, so your 170 wouldn't hurt.

Your GPA is below median at H, so you still wouldn't be a lock there.

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Re: 3.84/170

Postby byunbee » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:13 am

wait, you just joined on the 7th, and this is your 2nd post? is this another one of those hypothetical x GPA/x LSAT posts?

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Re: 3.84/170

Postby Tautology » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:16 am

byunbee wrote:wait, you just joined on the 7th, and this is your 2nd post? is this another one of those hypothetical x GPA/x LSAT posts?


Good catch. Her other post:

How much do LSAT scores typically rise from the first practice test to the final exam? I took a practice test tonight with no prior prep and got a 160. What should I expect, considering that I was not extremely focused tonight and have had no practice before, and that I typically test much better un...


I change all my answers to this thread is pointless.

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Re: 3.84/170

Postby byunbee » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:20 am

gah! take some more practice tests, get a real lsat score, and then start worrying about HYS. you've got the whole process ass-backwards.

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Re: 3.84/170

Postby caic517 » Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:42 am

byunbee wrote:gah! take some more practice tests, get a real lsat score, and then start worrying about HYS. you've got the whole process ass-backwards.


Truth. You can always dream about getting into HYS, but until you have a set LSAT score you know you're applying with, stop speculating your chances like its the Chinese housing market.




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