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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:12 pm

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jt1341 wrote:Yes and his GPA is below a 3.0...... Thank you for restating my point?

I just dont understand how someone can straight up call 98% of LSAT test makers unintelligent while not having the best academic record themselves.


Even if it is easy to get a B without class or studying, it is unlikely that you could guarantee this in every single class (especially if a B- is a 2.7 which means you need to be scoring at least an 83/84 in every class). Thus while you would likely get close to a 3.0 but not hit it (statistically speaking). On top of that, even though I know nothing of the EE major, I'm pretty sure that you can't get a B without at least knowing the material (which means either studying or going to class).

jt1341 wrote:haha i started as a Biochem major......

For 2 years took nothing but chemistry/ochem/biology/natural science classes and still have a 4.0.

But i guess science classes are just as easy as government classes? nothing can be as difficult as EE i guess, even though i feel like Ochem and Calc are relatively difficult


That's not the point. If you didn't study or attend class at all, would you have gotten even a 3.0?

EDIT: Anyways this argument is completely irrelevant.


Major courses are curved to 2.67. And I was consistently average, to maybe slightly below average. I made up with a couple gen eds that were easy.

So in every course 50% were not getting a B. Though few got D's either.

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 005618502 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:13 pm

Oh and i have never been an avid reader in my free time, while playing lax and doing student gov i barely have time to skim for classes

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:14 pm

jt1341 wrote:Honestly im terrible at RC i usually get perfect on games, MAYBE miss 2-4 on LR altogether and then minus 8-10 on RC

Ive worked hard to improve RC but i cant seem to get it.

But yes some of those classes were a bitch, but the hardest class i have taken was a public policy class, or a constitution class. Much depends on the professor


It is timing or not getting the material. I'm kinda shocked 4.0 in SS wouldn't get the RC. You must be approaching it wrong.

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 005618502 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:16 pm

Material. I get out of each read at about 2:30 and can always get it down to 2 at most, then screw myself. The way i have been taught is to get my issue really well, then skim the rest looking for key words or phrases as to get apov or otherpov.

Trust me i am more shocked then anyone that i am still doing so poorly on RC while so well on the rest

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:18 pm

jt1341 wrote:Material. I get out of each read at about 2:30 and can always get it down to 2 at most, then screw myself. The way i have been taught is to get my issue really well, then skim the rest looking for key words or phrases as to get apov or otherpov.

Trust me i am more shocked then anyone that i am still doing so poorly on RC while so well on the rest


You gotta fix it before Oct, because just a couple points is HYS.

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 005618502 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:22 pm

I know. Im taking monday just in case. I have had those few where i can hit a 174-175 (very few) but i dont know how to improve RC.

Does reading material such as the economist really help? I have dont basically every RC passage (as well as games and LR) from 1-59 (except 39-47 which i am saving for new material in case i do have to re-take).

I will not retake if i get a 169 or even 168. 167 and down im retaking

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:25 pm

jt1341 wrote:I know. Im taking monday just in case. I have had those few where i can hit a 174-175 (very few) but i dont know how to improve RC.

Does reading material such as the economist really help? I have dont basically every RC passage (as well as games and LR) from 1-59 (except 39-47 which i am saving for new material in case i do have to re-take).

I will not retake if i get a 169 or even 168. 167 and down im retaking


I dunno, like you I wasn't much of a reader, and I just did a bunch of RC passes. My RC problem was timing.

I hesitate to give advice so close to the LSAT with no time to experiment, but when you get to two choices, think that one is absolutely right and one is absolutely wrong, and try to find the distinction between the two choices.

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby bk1 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:26 pm

jt1341 wrote:I know. Im taking monday just in case. I have had those few where i can hit a 174-175 (very few) but i dont know how to improve RC.

Does reading material such as the economist really help? I have dont basically every RC passage (as well as games and LR) from 1-59 (except 39-47 which i am saving for new material in case i do have to re-take).

I will not retake if i get a 169 or even 168. 167 and down im retaking


I haven't had trouble with RC so I can't testify from personal experience. However a lot of people claim that Voyager's RC Method is the best (link below).

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 005618502 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:28 pm

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jt1341 wrote:I know. Im taking monday just in case. I have had those few where i can hit a 174-175 (very few) but i dont know how to improve RC.

Does reading material such as the economist really help? I have dont basically every RC passage (as well as games and LR) from 1-59 (except 39-47 which i am saving for new material in case i do have to re-take).

I will not retake if i get a 169 or even 168. 167 and down im retaking


I dunno, like you I wasn't much of a reader, and I just did a bunch of RC passes. My RC problem was timing.

I hesitate to give advice so close to the LSAT with no time to experiment, but when you get to two choices, think that one is absolutely right and one is absolutely wrong, and try to find the distinction between the two choices.


Well i guess i will hit you up on the 29th after i see results and go from there haha

BK: Thank you for the link. Though fox makes a good point that changing strategy 3 days before is risky. I will look it over though

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby hoopsguy6 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:29 pm

Lmao, ITT: a splitter and a reverse splitter take turns calling each other dumb. thank god TLS exists

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:29 pm

jt1341 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
jt1341 wrote:I know. Im taking monday just in case. I have had those few where i can hit a 174-175 (very few) but i dont know how to improve RC.

Does reading material such as the economist really help? I have dont basically every RC passage (as well as games and LR) from 1-59 (except 39-47 which i am saving for new material in case i do have to re-take).

I will not retake if i get a 169 or even 168. 167 and down im retaking


I dunno, like you I wasn't much of a reader, and I just did a bunch of RC passes. My RC problem was timing.

I hesitate to give advice so close to the LSAT with no time to experiment, but when you get to two choices, think that one is absolutely right and one is absolutely wrong, and try to find the distinction between the two choices.


Well i guess i will hit you up on the 29th after i see results and go from there haha

BK: Thank you for the link. Though fox makes a good point that changing strategy 3 days before is risky. I will look it over though


Go with what you know, and bank a 167-169. That should be good enough for Cornell at the worse. If you wanna experiment after that go ahead.

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:29 pm

hoopsguy6 wrote:Lmao, ITT: a splitter and a reverse splitter take turns calling each other dumb. thank god TLS exists


Then find common ground on RC sucking ass.

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby bk1 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:31 pm

jt1341 wrote:Well i guess i will hit you up on the 29th after i see results and go from there haha

BK: Thank you for the link. Though fox makes a good point that changing strategy 3 days before is risky. I will look it over though


NP. I agree that changing strats is risky, though depending on what your RC score is now it may be a "not much to lose" situation.
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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 005618502 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:32 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
hoopsguy6 wrote:Lmao, ITT: a splitter and a reverse splitter take turns calling each other dumb. thank god TLS exists


Then find common ground on RC sucking ass.


Hahaha very comical.

169.... 4.0..... very involved in undergrad.....

Cornell? i was thinking more like upenn, Berk (loves GPA), or michigan. Is this way off base????

Also is a 4.0 169 really a splitter? I thought of those as semi solid numbers... Would it have to be 4.0 and 170's to no be a splitter? lol

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:50 pm

jt1341 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
hoopsguy6 wrote:Lmao, ITT: a splitter and a reverse splitter take turns calling each other dumb. thank god TLS exists


Then find common ground on RC sucking ass.


Hahaha very comical.

169.... 4.0..... very involved in undergrad.....

Cornell? i was thinking more like upenn, Berk (loves GPA), or michigan. Is this way off base????

Also is a 4.0 169 really a splitter? I thought of those as semi solid numbers... Would it have to be 4.0 and 170's to no be a splitter? lol


Yea you aren't a splitter. Cornell should be doable with 167, Mich with a 168. Boalt is boalt.

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby Albatross » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:27 pm

cubswin wrote:
kenson wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
kenson wrote:That's funny.. could have sworn the LSAT doesn't have a math or science section. In other words, ACT =/= intelligence test, rather aptitude test for a broad liberal arts education.


Neither is the LSAT. It's a rough guess. I was just making sure he wasn't retarded. I can't figure out how intelligent people get more than 10 questions wrong on the LSAT.

Credited. Someone scoring exponentially low on the ACT may indicate he/she doesn't have any kind of aptitute for tests/scholar work in general, just like high scores indicate a higher rate of success on things like the lsat. That being said, I don't think average sat/act scores are damning of your chances to score high on the lsat.


An average ACT score is around a 20. I would wager very that few people who scored a 20 on the ACT go on to score over a 170 on the LSAT. Are there any stats on this?


To be completely honest, I only got a 21 on the ACT. Granted, I did get shitfaced the night before and slept through half of the science section. I'm taking the LSAT Monday and have been consistently scoring 167-170s for about a month (Except for a little speedbump today). I'll report back in a couple of weeks.

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby romothesavior » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:31 pm

jt1341 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
hoopsguy6 wrote:Lmao, ITT: a splitter and a reverse splitter take turns calling each other dumb. thank god TLS exists


Then find common ground on RC sucking ass.


Hahaha very comical.

169.... 4.0..... very involved in undergrad.....

Cornell? i was thinking more like upenn, Berk (loves GPA), or michigan. Is this way off base????

Also is a 4.0 169 really a splitter? I thought of those as semi solid numbers... Would it have to be 4.0 and 170's to no be a splitter? lol


You are not a splitter.

But yes, Berkley is a good bet. Michigan is also likely an acceptance, and Cornell is auto-admit.

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby nystateofmind » Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:04 am

jt1341 wrote:
bk1 wrote:
jt1341 wrote:Even slacking off.... I can not study for tests/not go to class and get a B


And a B average is a 3.0...


Yes and his GPA is below a 3.0...... Thank you for restating my point?

I just dont understand how someone can straight up call 98% of LSAT test makers unintelligent while not having the best academic record themselves.


No my GPA isn't. Don't know where u got that from but I have a 3.33 by LSAC standards, far from perfect but not below 3.0.

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 005618502 » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:10 am

nystateofmind wrote:
jt1341 wrote:
bk1 wrote:
jt1341 wrote:Even slacking off.... I can not study for tests/not go to class and get a B


And a B average is a 3.0...


Yes and his GPA is below a 3.0...... Thank you for restating my point?

I just dont understand how someone can straight up call 98% of LSAT test makers unintelligent while not having the best academic record themselves.


No my GPA isn't. Don't know where u got that from but I have a 3.33 by LSAC standards, far from perfect but not below 3.0.


You obviously missed most of the conversation haha. That was in no way directed towards you

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby 005618502 » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:12 am

romothesavior wrote:
jt1341 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
hoopsguy6 wrote:Lmao, ITT: a splitter and a reverse splitter take turns calling each other dumb. thank god TLS exists


Then find common ground on RC sucking ass.


Hahaha very comical.

169.... 4.0..... very involved in undergrad.....

Cornell? i was thinking more like upenn, Berk (loves GPA), or michigan. Is this way off base????

Also is a 4.0 169 really a splitter? I thought of those as semi solid numbers... Would it have to be 4.0 and 170's to no be a splitter? lol


You are not a splitter.

But yes, Berkley is a good bet. Michigan is also likely an acceptance, and Cornell is auto-admit.


That is sort of what i was thinking. What do you think about upenn? that might be my top choice... hard to get any insight into what people think about their admissions

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Re: 180 LSAT

Postby nystateofmind » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:51 am

You obviously missed most of the conversation haha. That was in no way directed towards you[/quote]

oh ok just making sure lol
that's what I get for jumping into an ongoing conversation ... sorry

and now I'll slowly exit the stage to avoid further embarrassment




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