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What LSAT would I need for Harvard given...

Postby williammmc » Sun May 09, 2010 2:52 pm

Realistically, if I want to go to Harvard, what LSAT score, in your opinions, do you think I would need knowing this:

-Graduating UCRiverside, so a public state school
-Environmental Science Major
-Social Science, environmental law focus
-3.91-3.93 GPA
-Performed research in soil chemistry
-Conducted a symposium on my research
-White male
-8 years varying work experience, 5 years in a single job
-Great letters from knowledgeable professors and one from a long time boss
-Some interesting travel/volunteer work

Thank you for your honest opinion, and for taking the time out to give me some peace of mind.

WM

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Re: What LSAT would I need for Harvard given...

Postby rayiner » Sun May 09, 2010 2:53 pm

williammmc wrote:Realistically, if I want to go to Harvard, what LSAT score, in your opinions, do you think I would need knowing this:

-Graduating UCRiverside, so a public state school
-Environmental Science Major
-Social Science, environmental law focus
-3.91-3.93 GPA
-Performed research in soil chemistry
-Conducted a symposium on my research
-White male
-8 years varying work experience, 5 years in a single job
-Great letters from knowledgeable professors and one from a long time boss
-Some interesting travel/volunteer work

Thank you for your honest opinion, and for taking the time out to give me some peace of mind.

WM


172+ for a good shot.

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Re: What LSAT would I need for Harvard given...

Postby 03121202698008 » Sun May 09, 2010 2:56 pm

Harvard's 75th percentile is like 176. You are right at their 75th for GPA. Your softs are nothing special...so it's kind of a crapshoot. A 176 would likely give you a decent shot but nothing is guaranteed when you hit HYS.

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Re: What LSAT would I need for Harvard given...

Postby DeepSeaLaw » Sun May 09, 2010 3:16 pm

blhoward2 wrote:Harvard's 75th percentile is like 176. You are right at their 75th for GPA. Your softs are nothing special...so it's kind of a crapshoot. A 176 would likely give you a decent shot but nothing is guaranteed when you hit HYS.



Eh...that's true for Yale and Stanford, but not really for Harvard. Their process is fairly predictable. With a 3.9, if you score 175 or higher, you should get in (check out lawschoolnumbers.com). Certainly not a guarantee, but they don't reject too many 3.9+ 175+ applicants--they can't afford to, given their size.

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Re: What LSAT would I need for Harvard given...

Postby 03121202698008 » Sun May 09, 2010 3:53 pm

DeepSeaLaw wrote:
blhoward2 wrote:Harvard's 75th percentile is like 176. You are right at their 75th for GPA. Your softs are nothing special...so it's kind of a crapshoot. A 176 would likely give you a decent shot but nothing is guaranteed when you hit HYS.



Eh...that's true for Yale and Stanford, but not really for Harvard. Their process is fairly predictable. With a 3.9, if you score 175 or higher, you should get in (check out lawschoolnumbers.com). Certainly not a guarantee, but they don't reject too many 3.9+ 175+ applicants--they can't afford to, given their size.


http://lawschoolnumbers.com/theadw

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/cincinnatus

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/countalicious

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/carterth

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/rofl

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Dominusfiki

I'm not the expert on harvard by any means...and LSN isn't representative. But, at least some 17s+s got waitlisted/rejected with a 3.9...including a 180. I said a 176...which is their 75th and a decent shot. The evidence clearly indicates a 175 isn't a gurantee...hence "decent shot".
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Re: What LSAT would I need for Harvard given...

Postby Tautology » Sun May 09, 2010 4:09 pm

The LSAT score that will give you the best chance is the best LSAT score you can get.

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Re: What LSAT would I need for Harvard given...

Postby DoubleChecks » Sun May 09, 2010 4:10 pm

blhoward2 wrote:
DeepSeaLaw wrote:
blhoward2 wrote:Harvard's 75th percentile is like 176. You are right at their 75th for GPA. Your softs are nothing special...so it's kind of a crapshoot. A 176 would likely give you a decent shot but nothing is guaranteed when you hit HYS.



Eh...that's true for Yale and Stanford, but not really for Harvard. Their process is fairly predictable. With a 3.9, if you score 175 or higher, you should get in (check out lawschoolnumbers.com). Certainly not a guarantee, but they don't reject too many 3.9+ 175+ applicants--they can't afford to, given their size.


http://lawschoolnumbers.com/theadw

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/cincinnatus

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/countalicious

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/carterth

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/rofl

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Dominusfiki

I'm not the expert on harvard by any means...and LSN isn't representative. But, at least some 175s got waitlisted/rejected with a 3.9...including a 180. I said a 176...which is their 75th and a decent shot. The evidence clearly indicates a 175 isn't a gurantee...hence "decent shot".


i would say this recent cycle has been a bit tougher, but thats still a bit pessimistic imo

HLS seems to be hitting hard on 2 types of applicants this yr (who get WL/rej w/ these sort of stats) -- high LSAT like 180 but sub 3.8 GPA and LSAT retakers

a 3.9+ GPA and 175+ LSAT (1 try) is very good for HLS, assuming he applies early and presents a decent overall package

so id say better than decent but rather 'very good' for HLS if OP can get 175+ on his first try

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Re: What LSAT would I need for Harvard given...

Postby 03121202698008 » Sun May 09, 2010 4:11 pm

DoubleChecks wrote:
blhoward2 wrote:
DeepSeaLaw wrote:
blhoward2 wrote:Harvard's 75th percentile is like 176. You are right at their 75th for GPA. Your softs are nothing special...so it's kind of a crapshoot. A 176 would likely give you a decent shot but nothing is guaranteed when you hit HYS.



Eh...that's true for Yale and Stanford, but not really for Harvard. Their process is fairly predictable. With a 3.9, if you score 175 or higher, you should get in (check out lawschoolnumbers.com). Certainly not a guarantee, but they don't reject too many 3.9+ 175+ applicants--they can't afford to, given their size.


http://lawschoolnumbers.com/theadw

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/cincinnatus

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/countalicious

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/carterth

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/rofl

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Dominusfiki

I'm not the expert on harvard by any means...and LSN isn't representative. But, at least some 175s got waitlisted/rejected with a 3.9...including a 180. I said a 176...which is their 75th and a decent shot. The evidence clearly indicates a 175 isn't a gurantee...hence "decent shot".


i would say this recent cycle has been a bit tougher, but thats still a bit pessimistic imo

HLS seems to be hitting hard on 2 types of applicants this yr (who get WL/rej w/ these sort of stats) -- high LSAT like 180 but sub 3.8 GPA and LSAT retakers

a 3.9+ GPA and 175+ LSAT (1 try) is very good for HLS, assuming he applies early and presents a decent overall package

so id say better than decent but rather 'very good' for HLS if OP can get 175+ on his first try


LOL. Fair enough.

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Re: What LSAT would I need for Harvard given...

Postby GeePee » Sun May 09, 2010 4:54 pm

blhoward2 wrote:
DeepSeaLaw wrote:
blhoward2 wrote:Harvard's 75th percentile is like 176. You are right at their 75th for GPA. Your softs are nothing special...so it's kind of a crapshoot. A 176 would likely give you a decent shot but nothing is guaranteed when you hit HYS.



Eh...that's true for Yale and Stanford, but not really for Harvard. Their process is fairly predictable. With a 3.9, if you score 175 or higher, you should get in (check out lawschoolnumbers.com). Certainly not a guarantee, but they don't reject too many 3.9+ 175+ applicants--they can't afford to, given their size.


http://lawschoolnumbers.com/theadw

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/cincinnatus

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/countalicious

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/carterth

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/rofl

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Dominusfiki

I'm not the expert on harvard by any means...and LSN isn't representative. But, at least some 17s+s got waitlisted/rejected with a 3.9...including a 180. I said a 176...which is their 75th and a decent shot. The evidence clearly indicates a 175 isn't a gurantee...hence "decent shot".


http://harvard.lawschoolnumbers.com/app ... ,7&type=jd

17/19 is pretty good odds. I'd go with 175 as safe.




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