4.0 Univ of TN MBA with legal issues looking at Vandy, Duke
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:08 am
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Serious lulz at this.bdmizzo wrote:University of Tennessee
Undergrad: Service Management, 3.4 GPA
MBA: Finance, 4.0 GPA
Work Experience: Considerable professional research experience while in undergrad
GMAT: 710 (92nd percentile), 6.0/6.0 Writing
Diagnostic LSAT: 163
LSAT Goal: 175+ on October Exam
Legal Issues:
Freshman year: officer came to my door claiming dorm room smelled like pot. "immediately complied", handing over a bag of pot that was in a commons area. Roomate wasn't present. No arrest. Placed on unsupervised probation by University. Completed all probation without problems. If I had ever dreamed I'd be going to law school, I wouldn't fought harder to argue this.
Sophomore year: arrested for underage consumption and public intoxication due to a misunderstanding. Found innocent, arrest record fully expunged.
First semester of MBA: cited for open container while drinking a beer in my own front yard. Advised by officer I could probably get the citation dropped. Again, didn't think I'd be going to law school, so I just paid it off.
I'm curious how these events will play into my application, and if I still have a chance of getting into top schools. I will be required to answer "Yes" to both the "academic disciplinary" and "ever been arrested" questions. Any feedback on my chances, or suggestions on how to handle this, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I've worked very hard to retain a 4.0, and it's my most recent experience. It's also an accelerated MBA (completed in 3 semesters), so I thought that might show evidence that I can definitely handle the law school workload. Any further explanation into why my grad school GPA doesn't matter?burtonrideclub wrote:Just be honest about them and none of these really matter. All that matters is your UG GPA though, the 4.0 in grad school does not.
I've considered something along these lines, but since none of the charges are very serious, AA or some type of narcotics class may look more like an admission of guilt. What do you think?cavebat2000 wrote:lol. Maybe do AA first.
bdmizzo wrote:I've worked very hard to retain a 4.0, and it's my most recent experience. It's also an accelerated MBA (completed in 3 semesters), so I thought that might show evidence that I can definitely handle the law school workload. Any further explanation into why my grad school GPA doesn't matter?burtonrideclub wrote:Just be honest about them and none of these really matter. All that matters is your UG GPA though, the 4.0 in grad school does not.
Only 13 of Vandy's 195 1L students hold "advanced degrees"... I understand the numbers game, but doesn't my hard work count for anything?iShotFirst wrote:Masters is just a fairly common soft.
Yeah that's great advice unless you're an 18 year old kid whose already signed a waiver saying they have the right to inspect your dorm room at any time.holydonkey wrote:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4885833865#
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Never talk to the police.
Unfortunately, no. Undergrad GPA + LSAT. Everything else are soft factors, which may help you as a tiebreaker, but I wouldn't rely on them. Work on your LSAT. 163 is a solid diagnostic, but if you want Vandy/Duke, you need to be in the 170's.bdmizzo wrote:Only 13 of Vandy's 195 1L students hold "advanced degrees"... I understand the numbers game, but doesn't my hard work count for anything?.
Plus it's fairly common to find people with master's degrees and 3.9+ GPAs.keg411 wrote:Unfortunately, no. Undergrad GPA + LSAT. Everything else are soft factors, which may help you as a tiebreaker, but I wouldn't rely on them. Work on your LSAT. 163 is a solid diagnostic, but if you want Vandy/Duke, you need to be in the 170's.bdmizzo wrote:Only 13 of Vandy's 195 1L students hold "advanced degrees"... I understand the numbers game, but doesn't my hard work count for anything?.
As for the addendum stuff, just disclose the incidents and exactly what happened each time and it shouldn't hurt.
It should probably be in the mid-170s with a 3.4. That's pretty low for Duke, near the lowest mark on LSN, and Vandy doesn't let in too many splitters.keg411 wrote:Unfortunately, no. Undergrad GPA + LSAT. Everything else are soft factors, which may help you as a tiebreaker, but I wouldn't rely on them. Work on your LSAT. 163 is a solid diagnostic, but if you want Vandy/Duke, you need to be in the 170's.bdmizzo wrote:Only 13 of Vandy's 195 1L students hold "advanced degrees"... I understand the numbers game, but doesn't my hard work count for anything?.
As for the addendum stuff, just disclose the incidents and exactly what happened each time and it shouldn't hurt.
I love the optimism. It's kind of like stating that your goal is to be the chair of the Appropriations Committee or you want the have a threesome with two Victoria' Secret models... it's just probably not in the cards.bdmizzo wrote:University of Tennessee
Undergrad: Service Management, 3.4 GPA
MBA: Finance, 4.0 GPA
Work Experience: Considerable professional research experience while in undergrad
GMAT: 710 (92nd percentile), 6.0/6.0 Writing
Diagnostic LSAT: 163
LSAT Goal: 175+ on October Exam
Legal Issues:
Freshman year: officer came to my door claiming dorm room smelled like pot. "immediately complied", handing over a bag of pot that was in a commons area. Roomate wasn't present. No arrest. Placed on unsupervised probation by University. Completed all probation without problems. If I had ever dreamed I'd be going to law school, I wouldn't fought harder to argue this.
Sophomore year: arrested for underage consumption and public intoxication due to a misunderstanding. Found innocent, arrest record fully expunged.
First semester of MBA: cited for open container while drinking a beer in my own front yard. Advised by officer I could probably get the citation dropped. Again, didn't think I'd be going to law school, so I just paid it off.
I'm curious how these events will play into my application, and if I still have a chance of getting into top schools. I will be required to answer "Yes" to both the "academic disciplinary" and "ever been arrested" questions. Any feedback on my chances, or suggestions on how to handle this, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I didn't know people actually talked like that.bdmizzo wrote:Well I've spent my entire life defying the odds, and I don't plan to quit now. Thanks to those who added value to this thread via thoughtful and constructive responses.