What are my odds? Forum
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Re: What are my odds?
I know TLS hates those without real LSATs but bear with me, please! Planning to take February 2013 LSAT and potentially June 2013 LSAT as well. Looking to enter law school in Fall 2014.
*3.69 GPA
*173 LSAT on multiple practice tests (171-175), so around ~170 on the actual LSAT for now
*Ability to get a good LOR from the president of the university
*President of the student government at large public university on the East Coast
*Not a URM
Looking for someone to give me my odds for CCN and chances for money at the rest of the T-14. Thanks!
*3.69 GPA
*173 LSAT on multiple practice tests (171-175), so around ~170 on the actual LSAT for now
*Ability to get a good LOR from the president of the university
*President of the student government at large public university on the East Coast
*Not a URM
Looking for someone to give me my odds for CCN and chances for money at the rest of the T-14. Thanks!
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Re: What are my odds?
You wouldn't really break into CCN until you broke 172. http://myLSN.info/j0qykkjwinger91 wrote:I know TLS hates those without real LSATs but bear with me, please! Planning to take February 2013 LSAT and potentially June 2013 LSAT as well. Looking to enter law school in Fall 2014.
*3.69 GPA
*173 LSAT on multiple practice tests (171-175), so around ~170 on the actual LSAT for now
*Ability to get a good LOR from the president of the university
*President of the student government at large public university on the East Coast
*Not a URM
Looking for someone to give me my odds for CCN and chances for money at the rest of the T-14. Thanks!
Why are you getting an LOR from the president of the university? Can you not find two solid profs?
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Re: What are my odds?
I'm wondering if the President's letter would be stronger for me than a prof's letter. I am a TA for a small class that the President teaches, so she has observed me in a pseudo-academic environment for two-going-on-three years now.TripTrip wrote:Why are you getting an LOR from the president of the university? Can you not find two solid profs?
Thanks for the advice on the LSAT, as well, 172 sounds like a manageable goal. Again, I'll apologize in advance for the hypothetical, but what kind of money can I expect at the rest of the T-14 with 3.69/172? I can't seem to find good information about scholarship offers for certain numbers.
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Re: What are my odds?
Then that makes sense.jwinger91 wrote:I am a TA for a small class that the President teaches
Click the link in my last post. It has scholarship numbers from every school listed.jwinger91 wrote:what kind of money can I expect at the rest of the T-14 with 3.69/172? I can't seem to find good information about scholarship offers for certain numbers.
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Re: What are my odds?
So those numbers are for average scholarships awarded over three years?TripTrip wrote:Click the link in my last post. It has scholarship numbers from every school listed.
Is there somewhere that I can find the cost of attendance for each of those schools in one place?
(Please excuse the n00b questions)
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- TripTrip
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Re: What are my odds?
Hover over the top column to see what it is - the first one (% $) is the percent of accepted students who received a scholarship, and the next (Avg $) is the average of how large those scholarships were. (That way you can see if a school gives out a lot of little ones or a few big ones or what have you.)jwinger91 wrote:So those numbers are for average scholarships awarded over three years?TripTrip wrote:Click the link in my last post. It has scholarship numbers from every school listed.
Is there somewhere that I can find the cost of attendance for each of those schools in one place?
(Please excuse the n00b questions)
For COA, see here: http://www.lstscorereports.com/?r=schools
- you'rethemannowdawg
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Re: What are my odds?
3.25/177
Non-URM.
Hoping to crack CCN. Any chance? Any chance at money in other T14?
Non-URM.
Hoping to crack CCN. Any chance? Any chance at money in other T14?
- fruitoftheloom
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Re: What are my odds?
I think you have a chance at N maybe.. do you have WE? I think with applications down 30%, you'll probably get something from somewhere!3.25/177
Non-URM.
Hoping to crack CCN. Any chance? Any chance at money in other T14?
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Re: What are my odds?
I do. 1 year WE. I'm at work right now, actually...fruitoftheloom wrote:I think you have a chance at N maybe.. do you have WE? I think with applications down 30%, you'll probably get something from somewhere!3.25/177
Non-URM.
Hoping to crack CCN. Any chance? Any chance at money in other T14?
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Re: What are my odds?
LSAT: 172 on a third attempt (163 the 1st time, 168 the 2nd)
UGPA: 3.1 from a top 50 university
Have a M.A. in Journalism with a 3.89 graduate GPA (while working full time)
Notable soft factors: 8 years non-profit public interest work experience in D.C., including testifying before Congress three times over the years and working with congressional staffers and executive branch officials -- I've directly contributed to the passage of several laws in a demonstrable way on the public record.
LORs from my boss of 6 years, a media law professor from my M.A. program, and the general counsel of a federal agency.
Any idea what my chances are at NYU, Cornell, Georgetown, UVA, Michigan, Penn, UT-Austin, UCLA? I wasn't particularly focused during my undergrad years, especially with a 1.9 GPA from one semester pulling my UGPA average down. I've run my numbers through lawschoolpredictor and thoroughly gone over lawschoolnumbers. Think my softs will matter much?
UGPA: 3.1 from a top 50 university
Have a M.A. in Journalism with a 3.89 graduate GPA (while working full time)
Notable soft factors: 8 years non-profit public interest work experience in D.C., including testifying before Congress three times over the years and working with congressional staffers and executive branch officials -- I've directly contributed to the passage of several laws in a demonstrable way on the public record.
LORs from my boss of 6 years, a media law professor from my M.A. program, and the general counsel of a federal agency.
Any idea what my chances are at NYU, Cornell, Georgetown, UVA, Michigan, Penn, UT-Austin, UCLA? I wasn't particularly focused during my undergrad years, especially with a 1.9 GPA from one semester pulling my UGPA average down. I've run my numbers through lawschoolpredictor and thoroughly gone over lawschoolnumbers. Think my softs will matter much?
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Re: What are my odds?
Obviously your softs are great. Your graduate GPA will be a good indicator of how you have worked harder as a student since your UG years. I would write an addendum for the 1.9 though. As a splitter, it's really tough to say, but I'm sure you'd be admitted to at least a few of those schools. I doubt you'll get much money (if any at all) because of your UGPA, so applying ED to NYU (and then ED 2 to Penn if NYU doesn't accept you) may be a good choice.uhhuh2004 wrote:LSAT: 172 on a third attempt (163 the 1st time, 168 the 2nd)
UGPA: 3.1 from a top 50 university
Have a M.A. in Journalism with a 3.89 graduate GPA (while working full time)
Notable soft factors: 8 years non-profit public interest work experience in D.C., including testifying before Congress three times over the years and working with congressional staffers and executive branch officials -- I've directly contributed to the passage of several laws in a demonstrable way on the public record.
LORs from my boss of 6 years, a media law professor from my M.A. program, and the general counsel of a federal agency.
Any idea what my chances are at NYU, Cornell, Georgetown, UVA, Michigan, Penn, UT-Austin, UCLA? I wasn't particularly focused during my undergrad years, especially with a 1.9 GPA from one semester pulling my UGPA average down. I've run my numbers through lawschoolpredictor and thoroughly gone over lawschoolnumbers. Think my softs will matter much?
And to answer your question, your softs will definitely put you into the admit pile if a school puts you into that gray area between admit and deny. Also, be prepared to ride waitlists.
Good luck!!
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Re: What are my odds?
School list:
University of Houston
Georgia State
Wake Forest
University of Oregon
GPA: 3.0
LSAT: 157
What do you think my chances are for getting into the above schools?
University of Houston
Georgia State
Wake Forest
University of Oregon
GPA: 3.0
LSAT: 157
What do you think my chances are for getting into the above schools?
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Re: What are my odds?
assuming you're not a URM, your chances are fairly slim. Oregon is the only school that you appear to have a good chance at, with Georgia State also being a decent shot.crazyducky924 wrote:School list:
University of Houston
Georgia State
Wake Forest
University of Oregon
GPA: 3.0
LSAT: 157
What do you think my chances are for getting into the above schools?
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Re: What are my odds?
Thanks for the reply!
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Re: What are my odds?
LSAT 151
GPA 3.61 (possibility of 3.64 by graduation in May)
Double major in Sociology and Ecology and Evolutionary Biology. Advisor is confident the scientific background will help.
Currently doing an Honor's Thesis as well. I mentioned this to many people at my school's law school fair and they said it could certainly help.
Schools are:
CU Boulder (Colorado Law) Fee Waiver
Vermont Fee Waiver
Denver
Minnesota Fee Waiver
These two are based on some pretty helpful law school calculators, am only exploring them atm.
U of Maryland
U of Wisconsin (invite to apply)
Interested in Environmental and International Law. I've lived in 2 other countries and have a lot of experience in adapting to new environments. I am deeply passionate about the environment and think it is one of the most important areas that need regulation for the future. I am a minority.
I am planning to take LSAT again. Constructive answers are much appreciated.
GPA 3.61 (possibility of 3.64 by graduation in May)
Double major in Sociology and Ecology and Evolutionary Biology. Advisor is confident the scientific background will help.
Currently doing an Honor's Thesis as well. I mentioned this to many people at my school's law school fair and they said it could certainly help.
Schools are:
CU Boulder (Colorado Law) Fee Waiver
Vermont Fee Waiver
Denver
Minnesota Fee Waiver
These two are based on some pretty helpful law school calculators, am only exploring them atm.
U of Maryland
U of Wisconsin (invite to apply)
Interested in Environmental and International Law. I've lived in 2 other countries and have a lot of experience in adapting to new environments. I am deeply passionate about the environment and think it is one of the most important areas that need regulation for the future. I am a minority.
I am planning to take LSAT again. Constructive answers are much appreciated.
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Re: What are my odds?
mhaquinator wrote:LSAT 151
GPA 3.61 (possibility of 3.64 by graduation in May)
Double major in Sociology and Ecology and Evolutionary Biology. Advisor is confident the scientific background will help.
Currently doing an Honor's Thesis as well. I mentioned this to many people at my school's law school fair and they said it could certainly help.
Schools are:
CU Boulder (Colorado Law) Fee Waiver
Vermont Fee Waiver
Denver
Minnesota Fee Waiver
These two are based on some pretty helpful law school calculators, am only exploring them atm.
U of Maryland
U of Wisconsin (invite to apply)
Interested in Environmental and International Law. I've lived in 2 other countries and have a lot of experience in adapting to new environments. I am deeply passionate about the environment and think it is one of the most important areas that need regulation for the future. I am a minority.
I am planning to take LSAT again. Constructive answers are much appreciated.
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Re: What are my odds?
If you are a URM, beast your retake and break into the T14. Also, if you are truly interested in those types of law, you'll want to go to a much better school than the ones you listed. Get a mid 160 and your viable options will change dramatically (assuming you are a URM).fruitoftheloom wrote:mhaquinator wrote:LSAT 151
GPA 3.61 (possibility of 3.64 by graduation in May)
Double major in Sociology and Ecology and Evolutionary Biology. Advisor is confident the scientific background will help.
Currently doing an Honor's Thesis as well. I mentioned this to many people at my school's law school fair and they said it could certainly help.
Schools are:
CU Boulder (Colorado Law) Fee Waiver
Vermont Fee Waiver
Denver
Minnesota Fee Waiver
These two are based on some pretty helpful law school calculators, am only exploring them atm.
U of Maryland
U of Wisconsin (invite to apply)
Interested in Environmental and International Law. I've lived in 2 other countries and have a lot of experience in adapting to new environments. I am deeply passionate about the environment and think it is one of the most important areas that need regulation for the future. I am a minority.
I am planning to take LSAT again. Constructive answers are much appreciated.
Are you an underrepresented minority? (african, mexican, or puerto-rican american?)
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Re: What are my odds?
No, I was actually born in Bangladesh to Bengali parents. Then I lived Down Under.fruitoftheloom wrote:mhaquinator wrote:LSAT 151
GPA 3.61 (possibility of 3.64 by graduation in May)
Double major in Sociology and Ecology and Evolutionary Biology. Advisor is confident the scientific background will help.
Currently doing an Honor's Thesis as well. I mentioned this to many people at my school's law school fair and they said it could certainly help.
Schools are:
CU Boulder (Colorado Law) Fee Waiver
Vermont Fee Waiver
Denver
Minnesota Fee Waiver
These two are based on some pretty helpful law school calculators, am only exploring them atm.
U of Maryland
U of Wisconsin (invite to apply)
Interested in Environmental and International Law. I've lived in 2 other countries and have a lot of experience in adapting to new environments. I am deeply passionate about the environment and think it is one of the most important areas that need regulation for the future. I am a minority.
I am planning to take LSAT again. Constructive answers are much appreciated.
Are you an underrepresented minority? (african, mexican, or puerto-rican american?)
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Re: What are my odds?
In any case, you sound like you have some good softs and a unique background. I'd forget about the schools you listed and start drilling old LSATs to break the mid 160s. There are a ton of LSAT prep resources on this website (also, you should use the PowerScore Bibles and/or the Manhattan LSAT books if you haven't already). I'm sure you can dramatically increase that 151. Best of luck!mhaquinator wrote:No, I was actually born in Bangladesh to Bengali parents. Then I lived Down Under.fruitoftheloom wrote:mhaquinator wrote:LSAT 151
GPA 3.61 (possibility of 3.64 by graduation in May)
Double major in Sociology and Ecology and Evolutionary Biology. Advisor is confident the scientific background will help.
Currently doing an Honor's Thesis as well. I mentioned this to many people at my school's law school fair and they said it could certainly help.
Schools are:
CU Boulder (Colorado Law) Fee Waiver
Vermont Fee Waiver
Denver
Minnesota Fee Waiver
These two are based on some pretty helpful law school calculators, am only exploring them atm.
U of Maryland
U of Wisconsin (invite to apply)
Interested in Environmental and International Law. I've lived in 2 other countries and have a lot of experience in adapting to new environments. I am deeply passionate about the environment and think it is one of the most important areas that need regulation for the future. I am a minority.
I am planning to take LSAT again. Constructive answers are much appreciated.
Are you an underrepresented minority? (african, mexican, or puerto-rican american?)
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Re: What are my odds?
Your GPA is pretty good, but you shouldnt apply until you improve your LSAT.
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Re: What are my odds?
Thanks guys, I'm relieved to know there are a few non a-holes here
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RETAKEmhaquinator wrote:Thanks guys, I'm relieved to know there are a few non a-holes here
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Re: What are my odds?
All help is appreciated.
LSAT - 157 (Little to no chance of retaking due to personal reasons.)
GPA - 3.66
International Student, major in international area studies + a minor in political science.
Three LORs, one Evaluation
Edit: While my school records indicate that my GPA is 3.66, the LSAC Academic Summary Report says it's 3.79. Don't know if that's of any particular relevance, but here ya go.
School List:
American
George Mason
Univ of Illinois
Temple
Univ. of Maryland
LSAT - 157 (Little to no chance of retaking due to personal reasons.)
GPA - 3.66
International Student, major in international area studies + a minor in political science.
Three LORs, one Evaluation
Edit: While my school records indicate that my GPA is 3.66, the LSAC Academic Summary Report says it's 3.79. Don't know if that's of any particular relevance, but here ya go.
School List:
American
George Mason
Univ of Illinois
Temple
Univ. of Maryland
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Re: What are my odds?
Might have a chance at American
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