What are my odds? Forum

[123xalady]

3.46 (Northwestern) with strong upward trend. 171 LSAT first time. 2.5 years working at reputable legal reform non profit in NYC. What are my chances for T14? I'm most interested in

Northwestern
Cornell
NYU
Georgetown
Penn
Duke

how much do you think knocking my LSAT up a few points would help? Any feedback is much appreciated.

[gatorlion]

Extreme reverse splitter (4.0/158)

GPA 4.0 from state school (top 50)
National finalist for prestigious award
Numerous merit scholarships
LSAT 158 (after practicing consistently in 162-167 range)
2 Master's degrees (state school and ivy league)
Lots of conference presentations
Lots of research work (state school and ivy league)
Lots of leadership
Couple publications as solo author
Interested in environmental law

Chances at:
Berkeley
UCLA (ED)
BC
GW
Colorado
U. Washington
Hastings
Tulane
Lewis & Clark
Vermont

Thanks!

[YCrevolution]

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[babin.6]

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[jawsthegreat]

Ok I have a 3.51/173, 4 year Division 1 varsity Baseball letter winner, little to no work experience (baseball in the summers), won a couple writing contests in school, honor societies etc...

So what are my chances at

Duke
Virginia
Chicago
Penn
Georgetown
Michigan
NYU
Columbia
Vandy

And are there any other schools that i should be applying to that are not on the list?
Thanks for any help guys

Someone predict me please!

[babin.6]

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[dacrazylawyer87]

Honest opinion of odds for "cream of the crop" schools, specifically:

Stanford, Yale, Columbia, NYU, UC Berkeley, etc. Also for Fordham, Cardozo.

Interested in: Contracts/Torts, IP Law, Human Rights

Profile:
URM: AA male

LSAT: First time 154 (Oct 08), second time (Sep 09) 157
GPA 3.93 (LSAC), 3.87 (CUNY/Macaulay Honors), Political Science and Media (double major), Spanish Minor. tons of 300 level courses so I challenged myself too.

Extra-curricular activities: DA's Office, corporate firm, no fault firm, writer for university newspaper and major Spanish language newspaper. Founder of my own freelance Spanish tutoring and translation business, have my own blog (mostly about politics).

Recs: all know me well, 2 Columbia Law alums and the Prof I did my honors thesis with

Primarily worried about the LSAT score limiting my options. Thanks!

(Babin u seem to the the only one predicting, could you please? Thanks!)

[msimeth]

Graduating from college at age 20 (I got bachelors in three years and started college a year early)
GPA 3.94 with an electrical engineering degree
LSAT 160
Full tuition scholarship for undergraduate
Engineering internship for two summers
Tutored throughout school year for all three academic years.
Lots of leadership with student organizations
Letters of recommendation are from engineering professors.

I was wondering about my chances at any of the top 20 schools. My focus is intellectual property.

What worries me is that my entire background is all in engineering and my LSAT score is low.

I would be applying to the joint degree program to those that offer an EE masters/JD if that changes anything.

[soullesswonder]

Honest opinion of odds for "cream of the crop" schools, specifically:

Stanford, Yale, Columbia, NYU, UC Berkeley, etc. Also for Fordham, Cardozo.

Interested in: Contracts/Torts, IP Law, Human Rights

Profile:
URM: AA male

LSAT: First time 154 (Oct 08), second time (Sep 09) 157
GPA 3.93 (LSAC), 3.87 (CUNY/Macaulay Honors), Political Science and Media (double major), Spanish Minor. tons of 300 level courses so I challenged myself too.

Extra-curricular activities: DA's Office, corporate firm, no fault firm, writer for university newspaper and major Spanish language newspaper. Founder of my own freelance Spanish tutoring and translation business, have my own blog (mostly about politics).

Recs: all know me well, 2 Columbia Law alums and the Prof I did my honors thesis with

Primarily worried about the LSAT score limiting my options. Thanks!

(Babin u seem to the the only one predicting, could you please? Thanks!)

Harvard: OUT
Yale: OUT
Stanford: OUT
Columbia: OUT
NYU: OUT
Berkeley: WL/IN
Fordham: IN
Cardozo: IN

[S de Garmeaux]

LSAT 165
LSDAS UGPA 3.28
Career Goal/Public Service Oriented PS

Political Science/Philosophy Double Major
UC Santa Barbara
20 hr/wk throughout 4 yrs there
2 internships: one w/ Judge for summer (LOR1); other for 6 months in D.C. working in International Licensing
Volunteer work: not a lot, but did a trip to Mexican orphanage in Ensenada (so vanilla it hurts at this point, i know), and worked for the organization that is trying to turn the wasteland of the old El Toro Air Force Base into a large park and nature preserve.

Current: 2 jobs; full time as legal assistant; nights and weekends delivering pizzas

In My Dreams:
UC Berkeley
UCLA
Texas

Reaches:
Colorado
Emory
Fordham
Minnesota
William & Mary
UCONN
UC Irvine (probably couldn't say 'no' to the scholarship if I got in)
Maryland

Decent/Good Shot:
UC Hastings (reach?)
UC Davis (reach?)
Indiana- Bloomington
Illinois
Iowa
Lewis & Clark
Tulane
Wake Forest
Loyola Marymoun

Safer Choices:
Chapman
Pepperdine
University of San Francisco
University of San Diego

Would love any feedback thanks

[Cormorant]

I'm very glad to have found this thread-- thanks in advance for any opinions.

GPA: 3.43
LSAT: 176

My college (Reed) claims not to have any grade inflation, and includes a card to that effect with the transcripts, but I'm not sure how much law schools would believe that. I have two commendations for academic excellence, but almost no extracurriculars, and I am not a minority.

I'm curious about what you think of my chances at the top 14. Please be honest.

[Mark71121]

Extreme reverse splitter (4.0/158)

GPA 4.0 from state school (top 50)
National finalist for prestigious award
Numerous merit scholarships
LSAT 158 (after practicing consistently in 162-167 range)
2 Master's degrees (state school and ivy league)
Lots of conference presentations
Lots of research work (state school and ivy league)
Lots of leadership
Couple publications as solo author
Interested in environmental law

Chances at:
Berkeley
UCLA (ED)
BC
GW
Colorado
U. Washington
Hastings
Tulane
Lewis & Clark
Vermont

Thanks!

absolutely 0% chance at boalt, UCLA, BC, and GW. you have a very good chance everywhere else although i wouldn't be shocked to see a hastings or tulane ding. those two schools mysteriously get a ton of applications.

[Mark71121]

3.46 (Northwestern) with strong upward trend. 171 LSAT first time. 2.5 years working at reputable legal reform non profit in NYC. What are my chances for T14? I'm most interested in

Northwestern
Cornell
NYU
Georgetown
Penn
Duke

how much do you think knocking my LSAT up a few points would help? Any feedback is much appreciated.

i think you're in @ cornell, NU, GULC and Duke. expect some WL action from Penn and NYU. definitely retake if you're capable of mid/high 170s. that'll shift your targets from MVP to CCN and ITE, that's a big difference.

[Mark71121]

I'm very glad to have found this thread-- thanks in advance for any opinions.

GPA: 3.43
LSAT: 176

My college (Reed) claims not to have any grade inflation, and includes a card to that effect with the transcripts, but I'm not sure how much law schools would believe that. I have two commendations for academic excellence, but almost no extracurriculars, and I am not a minority.

I'm curious about what you think of my chances at the top 14. Please be honest.

looking great everywhere minus HYS and maybe B.

[Mark71121]

Graduating from college at age 20 (I got bachelors in three years and started college a year early)
GPA 3.94 with an electrical engineering degree
LSAT 160
Full tuition scholarship for undergraduate
Engineering internship for two summers
Tutored throughout school year for all three academic years.
Lots of leadership with student organizations
Letters of recommendation are from engineering professors.

I was wondering about my chances at any of the top 20 schools. My focus is intellectual property.

What worries me is that my entire background is all in engineering and my LSAT score is low.

I would be applying to the joint degree program to those that offer an EE masters/JD if that changes anything.

no chance at T20.

[vandalvideo]

Of the schools to which I'm applying, there are two schools which I have a question about (Vanderbilt and Notre Dame). I'm a bit of a weird case when it comes to my numbers. My LSAT is fairly straightfoward; 167. At the same time, my GPA is a bit awkward. You see, I graduated high school when I was fairly young. (14 or 15 years old) I ended up going to a community college to take care of my general education requirements. Due to my age, my GPA slipped during these years and my average for the school was a 3.0. At the same time, after transfering to a state college my GPA for that college is a 3.9. My GPA averages out to a 3.7. I'm not sure what this weird arrangement says to a law school. According to law school predictor, were they to look at my state college, then I have a great chance at both schools. If they are to look at my average, then my chances shrink considerably. If they look at my Community college grades only (which I don't know why they would), I practically have no chance at either school. Any opinions?

PS: Interesting softs.

[klussy]

3.45, 160, non urm. I have many awards, grants, international experiences, not that I believe that matters. I'm a Virginia resident.

I'd like to know my chances at:

Ohio State
Tulane
Denver
U Conn
Maryland

[Mark71121]

Of the schools to which I'm applying, there are two schools which I have a question about (Vanderbilt and Notre Dame). I'm a bit of a weird case when it comes to my numbers. My LSAT is fairly straightfoward; 167. At the same time, my GPA is a bit awkward. You see, I graduated high school when I was fairly young. (14 or 15 years old) I ended up going to a community college to take care of my general education requirements. Due to my age, my GPA slipped during these years and my average for the school was a 3.0. At the same time, after transfering to a state college my GPA for that college is a 3.9. My GPA averages out to a 3.7. I'm not sure what this weird arrangement says to a law school. According to law school predictor, were they to look at my state college, then I have a great chance at both schools. If they are to look at my average, then my chances shrink considerably. If they look at my Community college grades only (which I don't know why they would), I practically have no chance at either school. Any opinions?

PS: Interesting softs.

you have a 3.7 and a 167. you should get into vandy and def nd

[123xalady]

3.46 (Northwestern) with strong upward trend. 171 LSAT first time. 2.5 years working at reputable legal reform non profit in NYC. What are my chances for T14? I'm most interested in

Northwestern
Cornell
NYU
Georgetown
Penn
Duke

how much do you think knocking my LSAT up a few points would help? Any feedback is much appreciated.

i think you're in @ cornell, NU, GULC and Duke. expect some WL action from Penn and NYU. definitely retake if you're capable of mid/high 170s. that'll shift your targets from MVP to CCN and ITE, that's a big difference.

Thanks for the input- I actually just found out my LSDAS GPA is 3.49- i'll take every last point I can get haha. Does this change anything? I doubt it...

[smittytron3k]

3.94 (summa) from UC Berkeley/175. good but not great softs (top 10 nationally in parliamentary debate, spent a summer working for Monitor, won an award for my thesis, plus all the standard stuff like phi beta kappa etc.) what are my chances for YLS/SLS? current list is:

Yale
Stanford
Harvard
Chicago
Virginia
Texas
Boalt
GULC
NU

and if i don't get in anywhere on the list then i'm going to apply next year and work on my resume/app...not worth wasting $ anywhere worse imo.

[MU2009]

Non-URM, 1 year out of school, decent upward trend GPA (had a 2.21 after freshman year), 155 LSAT and 3.03 GPA. I am also retaking this Saturday and confident I will do better as I missed 15 questions on Section 3 of the September LSAT. Chances at any of these?

Stetson FT or PT
South Carolina
Ole Miss
LSU
Louisville FT or PT
Houston PT
Memphis
Texas Tech FT or PT
New Mexico
Santa Clara FT or PT
Arizona State

[Xander34]

155 lsat 3.81 gpa. How does that stack up at Catholic Law and UMD law?? Thanks!

[tommytahoe]

3.78 GPA, 161 LSAT. Have lopped off the top half of my previous list. Now I'm wondering what my chances are with Hastings and Davis. Decent LORs, very strong Personal Statement.
Anyone?

Thanks!

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[rw2264]

Extreme reverse splitter (4.0/158)

GPA 4.0 from state school (top 50)
National finalist for prestigious award
Numerous merit scholarships
LSAT 158 (after practicing consistently in 162-167 range)
2 Master's degrees (state school and ivy league)
Lots of conference presentations
Lots of research work (state school and ivy league)
Lots of leadership
Couple publications as solo author
Interested in environmental law

Chances at:
Berkeley
UCLA (ED)
BC
GW
Colorado
U. Washington
Hastings
Tulane
Lewis & Clark
Vermont

Thanks!

For Christ's sake, retake the LSAT. if you can get a 165 you are in everywhere except maybe berkeley. without it--out at Berkeley, UCLA, GW, UWash, Hastings. A maybe everywhere else besides Vermont and Lewis & Clark.
WAIT AND RETAKE. Why would you spend over a hundred thousand dollars on law school when you can spend nothing if you go to the same, low-ranked law school and they give you $$$ for your better stats, or spend that hundred thousand dollars somewhere great like Berkeley?
If you can get a 4.0 in college (at somewhere better than a community college I assume), you can get a 165 on the LSAT. Study for 1 hour a day for three months. Your score will go up. I promise.