Top-Law-Schools.comTLS
Home
Law School
Admissions
Law
Schools
Law
Students
TLS
Forums
 
Forum Index     Latest Posts     Forum Search     Mobile (on/off)     Forum Archives     See Also: Rankings/Profiles   Interviews   LSAT Prep   TLS Stats

TLS would like to remind its users that it is unlawful to share or distribute copies of copyrighted materials. Click here for copyright infringement notification information.


All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 934 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 38  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: What are my odds?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:26 pm 
Offline
Pirate, Esq.
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 19, 1981 12:25 am
Posts: 17899
Location: 41.89' N, 87.61' W
A common question for those just beginning the process of applying to law schools is where they can reasonably expect to be accepted or rejected. This information is vital for accurately establishing reaches, targets, and safeties.

The poster UberLSAT has a helpful pile of links that he has been tirelessly reposting every time this question comes up, and here they are for new visitors:

Quote:
Given a GPA and LSAT score, look up your probability of getting into any particular school here (click the search link

after page loads):

http://officialguide.lsac.org/UGPASearc ... SidString=

Compare yourself with other students here - click the graph for any school you're interested in (Note this is often

down but if you keep trying you will eventually get through)

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/schools.php ... 4&view=all

Check here for the main factor each school considers besides GPA and LSAT -- e.g. if you are a URM (under-represented

minority) then look for schools emphasizing "diversity". [Caveat: this is about 10 years old]

http://www.deloggio.com/admproc/what.htm

If you are contemplating a retake and want to know a particular school's policy on applicants with multiple LSATS,

check these links (they may not always agree with one another so check both and decide which sounds more credible to

you):
http://www.deloggio.com/academic/twolsat.htm
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... .php?t=409

Finally, if you want LSAC data on how students with your LSAT score have fared on a retake, check page 20 of this PDF

(also a source of much valuable information about the LSAT, how your GPA is calculated, etc.):
http://www.lsac.org/pdfs/2007-2008/Info ... 007web.pdf

For study advice, check the sticky thread:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... .php?t=396


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:27 pm
Posts: 1292
Thanks Corsair! Guess I can retire from the forums now.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: other factors
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:22 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:02 pm
Posts: 2
of course there are other factors besides your gpa and lsat score though. your personal statement is also important. if you take off time in between undergrad and law school, what you do with that time is also very important. now more than ever, law schools are looking for candidates with 'real world' experience. so if you take off do something productive with your time.

i'm taking off time in between, but i'm going to grad school abroad. interning, volunteering, traveling (not aimlessly) and working a steady job are also great ideas.

peace,

ibs


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:41 pm
Posts: 2180
By the time I graduate, I'll have worked as a courier/file clerk in a labor and employment firm for about two years. Does that count as work experience, or is work experience generally referred to as degree-oriented jobs?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:54 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:12 am
Posts: 96
what if you are taking one year off and plan on applying as early in the cycle as possible in '09, right after you have started working? how will they look as far as WE, even for a short period of time? can you talk about your plans for the year between undergrad and law in your personal statement even though they might have not yet occurred? (i plan on working for a few months in the u.s. after i graduate from college and then teaching english abroad, but having my apps in before i leave) how will that look as far as work experience?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:20 pm 
Offline
Pirate, Esq.
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 19, 1981 12:25 am
Posts: 17899
Location: 41.89' N, 87.61' W
The vast majority of applicants won't have their work experience or other 'soft factors' make or break their applications. With the exception of URM status, the majority get accepted/rejected where their numbers suggest they will be.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:37 am
Posts: 522
Quote:
By the time I graduate, I'll have worked as a courier/file clerk in a labor and employment firm for about two years. Does that count as work experience, or is work experience generally referred to as degree-oriented jobs?


Have you advanced/stood out at all?

The basic philosophy of work: it's not really about what you do as much as it is how passionate and successful you were at doing it.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Hmmmmm
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:35 pm
Posts: 223
Is that link "What are Law Schools Looking For?" really from Christmas of 1997? How accurate is something 10 years old? Maybe it's been updated since then but the poster signs is 1997....


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:29 pm 
Offline
Pirate, Esq.
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 19, 1981 12:25 am
Posts: 17899
Location: 41.89' N, 87.61' W
Considering that everything other than LSAT/GPA/URM is basically just a tie breaker, I wouldn't worry about it. We have a lot of people with a lot of different backgrounds, and with very few exceptions, the vast majority of people the vast majority of the time got accepted or rejected as their numbers suggested they would.

So I wouldn't worry about it. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Advice please
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:19 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon May 14, 2007 4:54 pm
Posts: 5
I need some advice. I am really interested in international/criminal law. Here are my stats:

UGPA: 2.79
LSAT: 153

What would be good schools to look into? What can I do to make my application more competitive? Also I am currently an AmeriCorps VISTA, how does that factor in?

Thanks.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:34 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:03 pm
Posts: 381
I would study more and retake the LSAT. Your gpa is fairly low, but there is little you can do in that regard. If you get your LSAT up you may be able to get into some lower Tier 1 schools.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:51 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:28 pm
Posts: 8135
Location: LSN: Pyke
http://www.bc.edu/offices/careers/grads ... awlocator/


Anybody want to guess what they would recommend if you are below and to the right and no corresponding grid exists?

(I happen to be below the "C" column and to the right of the "G" column :).)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:03 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:51 am
Posts: 3063
That graph is a little broad. HYS for >3.6 and >165?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Goal
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:19 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon May 14, 2007 4:54 pm
Posts: 5
I would really like to go to DePaul or IU-Indy. Do you think that is possible with my numbers?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:24 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:27 pm
Posts: 1292
Quote:
I would really like to go to DePaul or IU-Indy. Do you think that is possible with my numbers?


Given a GPA and LSAT score, look up your probability of getting into any particular school here (click the search link after page loads):

http://officialguide.lsac.org/UGPASearc ... SidString=

Compare yourself with other students here - click the graph for any school you're interested in (Note this is often down but if you keep trying you will eventually get through)

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/schools.php ... 4&view=all


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:08 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:11 pm
Posts: 245
3.3/158 (low ball estimate)

tier 1 a possibility?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:37 am 
Offline
Pirate, Esq.
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 19, 1981 12:25 am
Posts: 17899
Location: 41.89' N, 87.61' W
Clicking the links above, particularly the LSAC search link, you can input your numbers and it'll give you a rough idea.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:27 pm
Posts: 1292
Corsair wrote:
My experience with the interweb has taught me that no matter what stickies, search functions, or other tools you give people, they will still ask the questions.

I see what you meant. I am simply stunned that people come to this thread, ignore the chance to immediately obtain answers by clicking the links in the first post, and instead post their stats at the bottom of the page. Do these people really belong in law school?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:28 pm
Posts: 8135
Location: LSN: Pyke
Depends.

They taking your spot or mine?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: 156 / 3.9GPA
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:09 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:04 am
Posts: 2
Hey everyone,

I'm looking at applying to school for the class entering in the fall 2008. I'm bummed about my LSAT; I took it twice and my best score was a 156. My undergrad gpa is a 3.9. I have a masters degree and four years of substantive full-time work experience. I'm also a URM. Can anyone chime in on my odds of getting into a tier-1 or T-14 school. I know they're not great, but I'd like you opinion as to whether I should even bother sending my application.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:25 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:48 pm
Posts: 3873
Go for it, REACHER!

I would seriously consider retaking the LSAT once more though. You may want to change your prep strategies. Have you taken an official prep course? Have you sought 1-on-1 tutoring?

None of us is on the adcomms @ any of these law schools. Let THEM has the final say!

WHERE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAY!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:12 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:31 pm
Posts: 471
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8546. Further information on multiple LSATs.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:45 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:00 pm
Posts: 3274
156 depending on what type of URM is a LOCK for a Tier 1


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:59 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:54 pm
Posts: 75
Quote:
156 depending on what type of URM is a LOCK for a Tier 1


Does this LOCK depend on grades?

I am aiming for a score higher than that, but I'll have some decisions to make if I score below 160.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:02 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:46 am
Posts: 41
Has anyone had trouble trying to register on

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com

I've found all the sites that Corsair put up really helpful and I would like to get on this one for the coming application cycle. When I go to register it briefly shows a page where you can enter information but then it immediately goes to an error page that says "Only alphanumeric characters allow."

Anyone else experience this? I'm just using a PC w/ windows XP so I don't think it is a compatibility issue. :?


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 934 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 38  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests



Princeton Review LSAT

Search for:
Jump to:  
Login     Contact     Copyright Notice

copyright 2003-2013 top-law-schools.com • all rights reserved • powered by phpBB