TheLuckyOne wrote:I'm sorry to ask this question, I'm just clueless in certain things. Is it really that easy to get into CLS/NYU being #1 at t4? and is it really that hard to get a high GPA from a t4 school? Honestly, just really curious and completely clueless.
I mean there are about 200 schools, if every top 5 students from each school decide to transfer to t14, even t5, and CLS/NYU accept up to a 100 and HYS 50 (just assuming), there is just not enough space for everyone to be a lock there. I mean, if a person put so much effort to pull that GPA, I doubt that person is not sensible enough to try to transfer to, say, Harvard.
Someone shed some light here, please.
Do you actually believe that being in the top of the class at a T4 is easy? Are you that fucking retarded or just a jerkoff..
I'm a TTT grad. I scored in the upper 95% on the MBE after law school. So i guess since 94% of the law school graduates that took the MBE in the various states (and I'll tell ya, I saw a lot of douchie t-14 tshirts at the Javitz Center in NYC in July 08), couldn't keep up with me, perhaps I'm walking proof that you might bump into some real competition at a TTT law school. I couldn't figure out in 5 minutes or less how to place 6 kids at a round table with only 5 seats and two red chairs on a fucking tuesday; but I know the law a hell of a lot better than a great many of the 'top law school' grads i've come into contact with and believe it or not, at a certain point, actual ability matters (not getting all A's in intro to learning your own name in college and banging out a super-duper score on the LSAT). I've watched YLS grads make fucking fools of themselves before federal judges as I calmly get exactly what I want. I've also sat and watched as one of the most famous trial lawyers in NY (a TTT grad), walked into and fucking owned a courtroom with 95 lawyers in it as everyone sat and watched in amazement. I've laughed at the fact that a great number of the 'top law school' grads that work at my firm are in the same boat I am. Don't be mislead, at a certain point, ability actually matters.
This site really needs to get over itself. TTTs are only 'bad' because of the job opportunities available to their graduates. The TTT schools teach the same law from the same textbooks as the all-mighty T14s. You'll find smart people at every school that are attending for all different reasons. You'll also find many TTT grads that wind up having better careers than their T14 peers. Mind you, most T14ers will do better, but the number of TTT grads that do better or the same is greater than you think. They just get overshadowed by the hordes of failing TTT grads running from no-fault part to no-fault part trying to make 45k a year. But to assume that TTTs dont have some real heavy hitters is just fucking dumb.
Take shots at TTTs for poor job placement all day long. They deserve that. But when you start to take shots at the quality of education, you're moving into an area for which there simply is no proof to support a finding that the 'top law schools' are actually 'better.'
whoa, why so bitter
Dude, I don't deny the fact that there are talented people and that there are hard-working people at a TTT, but it's just rare that these two traits appear in the same person.
I disagree with you that the quality of education is even remotely similar to the one at the top schools, and I'm basing this on the undergrad. I also disagree that not to study is as bad at a lower ranked school as it is at the top school (people are more used to see people partying instead of studying). My point is: less competition = easier to achieve a top grade by simply doing at least something and being remotely intelligent, not just slacking around. TTT school has a curve just like any other school, and this curve is based on who is better than who. Thus, if not too many care about studying and their grades or are merely not made for legal career, one might end up a top student just because s/he opened a book once in a while or alternatively was dumb, but very hard-working.
I graduated from a top university and I have friends who study/studied at a much lower ranked ones. Honestly, education level, intelligence of professors, curriculum requirements, ambitions of the classmates, their brain capacity is nothing to be even compared. Lower ranked schools are lower for a reason. And stop telling me that Yale grads are stupid when comparing to a TTT grad
Again, I'm not saying there are no outliers, but...
Is it really that hard to comprehend.
Note: OP, I apologize if I offended you, I honestly didn't mean to. To reiterate: I do NOT question your intelligence.